[zfs-discuss] Zfs log device (zil) ever coming to Sol10?

2007-09-18 Thread Andy Lubel
I think we are very close to using zfs in our production environment..  Now
that I have snv_72 installed and my pools set up with NVRAM log devices
things are hauling butt.

I've been digging to find out whether this capability would be put into
Solaris 10, does anyone know?

If not, then I guess we can probably be OK using SXCE (as Joyent did).

Thanks,

Andy Lubel

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Re: [zfs-discuss] Zfs log device (zil) ever coming to Sol10?

2007-09-18 Thread Cindy . Swearingen
The log device feature integrated into snv_68.

You can read about them here:

http://blogs.sun.com/perrin/entry/slog_blog_or_blogging_on

And starting on page 18 of the ZFS Admin Guide, here:

http://opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/docs



Albert Chin wrote:
 On Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 12:59:02PM -0400, Andy Lubel wrote:
 
I think we are very close to using zfs in our production environment..  Now
that I have snv_72 installed and my pools set up with NVRAM log devices
things are hauling butt.
 
 
 How did you get NVRAM log devices?
 
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Re: [zfs-discuss] Zfs log device (zil) ever coming to Sol10?

2007-09-18 Thread Albert Chin
On Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 12:59:02PM -0400, Andy Lubel wrote:
 I think we are very close to using zfs in our production environment..  Now
 that I have snv_72 installed and my pools set up with NVRAM log devices
 things are hauling butt.

How did you get NVRAM log devices?

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Re: [zfs-discuss] Zfs log device (zil) ever coming to Sol10?

2007-09-18 Thread Neil Perrin
Separate log devices (slogs) didn't make it into S10U4 but will be in U5.

Andy Lubel wrote:
 I think we are very close to using zfs in our production environment..  Now
 that I have snv_72 installed and my pools set up with NVRAM log devices
 things are hauling butt.
 
 I've been digging to find out whether this capability would be put into
 Solaris 10, does anyone know?
 
 If not, then I guess we can probably be OK using SXCE (as Joyent did).
 
 Thanks,
 
 Andy Lubel
 
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Re: [zfs-discuss] Zfs log device (zil) ever coming to Sol10?

2007-09-18 Thread Andy Lubel
On 9/18/07 1:02 PM, Bryan Cantrill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Hey Andy,
 
 On Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 12:59:02PM -0400, Andy Lubel wrote:
 I think we are very close to using zfs in our production environment..  Now
 that I have snv_72 installed and my pools set up with NVRAM log devices
 things are hauling butt.
 
 Interesting!  Are you using a MicroMemory device, or is this some other
 NVRAM concoction?
 

RAMSAN :)
http://www.superssd.com/products/ramsan-400/

 I've been digging to find out whether this capability would be put into
 Solaris 10, does anyone know?
 
 I would say it's probably unlikely, but I'll let Neil and the ZFS team
 speak for that.  Do you mind if I ask what you're using ZFS for?
 
 - Bryan

Today's answer:
We want to use it for nearline backups (via nfs), eventually we would like
to use zvols+iscsi to serve up for Oracle databases.

My future answer:
What cant we use ZFS for?


If anyone wants to see my iozones just let me know.

-Andy Lubel

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Re: [zfs-discuss] Zfs log device (zil) ever coming to Sol10?

2007-09-18 Thread Andy Lubel
On 9/18/07 2:26 PM, Neil Perrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
 Andy Lubel wrote:
 On 9/18/07 1:02 PM, Bryan Cantrill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Hey Andy,
 
 On Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 12:59:02PM -0400, Andy Lubel wrote:
 I think we are very close to using zfs in our production environment..  Now
 that I have snv_72 installed and my pools set up with NVRAM log devices
 things are hauling butt.
 Interesting!  Are you using a MicroMemory device, or is this some other
 NVRAM concoction?
 
 
 RAMSAN :)
 http://www.superssd.com/products/ramsan-400/
 
 May I ask roughly what you paid for it.
 I think perhaps we ought to get one in-house and check it out as well.
 
 Thanks: Neil.

~80k for the 128gb model.  But we didn't pay anything for it, it was a
customer return that the vendor wouldn't take back.

Being that they have a fancy (we love) sun logo on the homepage I'm willing
to bet that they would send you a demo unit.  Let me know if I can help at
all with that.

-Andy Lubel
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Re: [zfs-discuss] Zfs log device (zil) ever coming to Sol10?

2007-09-18 Thread Matty
On 9/18/07, Neil Perrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Separate log devices (slogs) didn't make it into S10U4 but will be in U5.

This is awesome! Will the SYNC_NV support that was integrated this
week be added to update 5 as well? That would be super useful,
assuming the major arrays vendors support it.

Thanks,
- Ryan
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UNIX Administrator
http://prefetch.net
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Re: [zfs-discuss] Zfs log device (zil) ever coming to Sol10?

2007-09-18 Thread Neil Perrin


Matty wrote:
 On 9/18/07, Neil Perrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Separate log devices (slogs) didn't make it into S10U4 but will be in U5.
 
 This is awesome! Will the SYNC_NV support that was integrated this
 week be added to update 5 as well? That would be super useful,
 assuming the major arrays vendors support it.

I believe it will. So far we have just batched up all the
bug fixes and enhancements in ZFS and all of them are integrated
into the next update. It's easier for us that way as well.

Actually the part of we is not usually played by me!

Neil.
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