Re: [zfs-discuss] SIL3124 stability?
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[zfs-discuss] SIL3124 stability?
Hello! Anyone with experience with the SIL3124 chipset? Does it work good? It's in the HCL, but since SIL3114 apperantly is totally crap I'm a bit skeptic to silicon image.. Regards Mikael ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] SIL3124 stability?
Mikael Karlsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello! Anyone with experience with the SIL3124 chipset? Does it work good? It's in the HCL, but since SIL3114 apperantly is totally crap I'm a bit skeptic to silicon image.. Yesterday, I tried the SIL 3114 which should be the same. It comes with a BIOS that hangs up completely directly after detecting the first disk in my quad core Opteron based system. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] SIL3124 stability?
Daniel Rock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mikael Karlsson schrieb: Hello! Anyone with experience with the SIL3124 chipset? Does it work good? It's in the HCL, but since SIL3114 apperantly is totally crap I'm a bit skeptic to silicon image.. I'm running with two SIL3132 PCIe cards in my system with no problems. The only panic I had was when forcefully tried via smartmontools to get SMART data from the drives. If it works for your system, be happy. I mentioned that the controller may not be usable in all systems as it hangs up the BIOS in my machine if there is a disk connected to the card. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] SIL3124 stability?
Joerg Schilling schrieb: If it works for your system, be happy. I mentioned that the controller may not be usable in all systems as it hangs up the BIOS in my machine if there is a disk connected to the card. I disabled the BIOS on my cards because I don't need it. I boot from one of the onboard SATA ports. Daniel ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] SIL3124 stability?
Daniel Rock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joerg Schilling schrieb: If it works for your system, be happy. I mentioned that the controller may not be usable in all systems as it hangs up the BIOS in my machine if there is a disk connected to the card. I disabled the BIOS on my cards because I don't need it. I boot from one of the onboard SATA ports. OK, how did you do this? Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] SIL3124 stability?
Joerg Schilling schrieb: Daniel Rock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I disabled the BIOS on my cards because I don't need it. I boot from one of the onboard SATA ports. OK, how did you do this? This will depend on the card you are using. I simply had to remove a jumper (Dawicontrol DC-300e). Daniel ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] SIL3124 stability?
Daniel Rock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joerg Schilling schrieb: Daniel Rock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I disabled the BIOS on my cards because I don't need it. I boot from one of the onboard SATA ports. OK, how did you do this? This will depend on the card you are using. I simply had to remove a jumper (Dawicontrol DC-300e). I bought this two days ago http://www.kmelektronik.de/main_site/prod_detail/detail.php?ArtNr=4425Shop=0 and as the only information I could found in the web was to flash the card BIOS, I did not realize that there is a jumper It did however not work with booting without an atached disk and connecting it later. Do you believe it makes sense to give it a second try? Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] SIL3124 stability?
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 12:51:57PM +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: Mikael Karlsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone with experience with the SIL3124 chipset? Does it work good? Yesterday, I tried the SIL 3114 which should be the same. It comes with a BIOS that hangs up completely directly after detecting the first disk in my quad core Opteron based system. I'm running a 3124 under snv81 and it's been nothing but rock solid. I also don't boot from it, but that's only because GRUB can't seem to wrap its head around the disk it just booted from, not because it locks up the system. -brian -- Coding in C is like sending a 3 year old to do groceries. You gotta tell them exactly what you want or you'll end up with a cupboard full of pop tarts and pancake mix. -- IRC User (http://www.bash.org/?841435) ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] SIL3124 stability?
Brian Hechinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 12:51:57PM +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: Mikael Karlsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone with experience with the SIL3124 chipset? Does it work good? Yesterday, I tried the SIL 3114 which should be the same. It comes with a BIOS that hangs up completely directly after detecting the first disk in my quad core Opteron based system. I'm running a 3124 under snv81 and it's been nothing but rock solid. I also don't boot from it, but that's only because GRUB can't seem to wrap its head around the disk it just booted from, not because it locks up the system. THe lock I observed happened inside the BIOS of the card after the main board BIOS jumped into the board BIOS. This was before any bootloader has been ionvolved. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] SIL3124 stability?
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 04:23:42PM +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: THe lock I observed happened inside the BIOS of the card after the main board BIOS jumped into the board BIOS. This was before any bootloader has been ionvolved. I wonder if it's not nessesarily the BIOS of the card, but rather the combination of the BIOS in your machine and the BIOS in the card. Did you try it in a different machine? Also, did you update the firmware on the card? The firmware mine shipped with was completely unusable, but after updating it all was good. -brian -- Coding in C is like sending a 3 year old to do groceries. You gotta tell them exactly what you want or you'll end up with a cupboard full of pop tarts and pancake mix. -- IRC User (http://www.bash.org/?841435) ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] SIL3124 stability?
THe lock I observed happened inside the BIOS of the card after the main board BIOS jumped into the board BIOS. This was before any bootloader has been ionvolved. Is there a disk using a zpool with an EFI disk label? Here's a link to an old thread about systems hanging in BIOS POST when they see disks with EFI disk labels: http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?messageID=18211 -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] SIL3124 stability?
Jürgen Keil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: THe lock I observed happened inside the BIOS of the card after the main board BIOS jumped into the board BIOS. This was before any bootloader has been ionvolved. Is there a disk using a zpool with an EFI disk label? Here's a link to an old thread about systems hanging in BIOS POST when they see disks with EFI disk labels: http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?messageID=18211 I intentionally used a Sun disk label + fdisk. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] SIL3124 stability?
Brian Hechinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 04:23:42PM +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: THe lock I observed happened inside the BIOS of the card after the main board BIOS jumped into the board BIOS. This was before any bootloader has been ionvolved. I wonder if it's not nessesarily the BIOS of the card, but rather the combination of the BIOS in your machine and the BIOS in the card. Did you try it in a different machine? Also, did you update the firmware on the card? The firmware mine shipped with was completely unusable, but after updating it all was good. There is no option to use the card+disk in a differnt machine. I read that there might be a firmware upgrade but I have not been able to find a dowload. Did you updated from a DOS floppy? Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] SIL3124 stability?
mk == Mikael Karlsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: mk Anyone with experience with the SIL3124 chipset? Does it work mk good? In Solaris, I believe Sil3124 has a SATA framework driver while SIL3114 is the old IDE framework. There is more than one version of the 3124, but I've not heard errata about either version. There are some Sil PCIe cards out there. The 2-port ones are a native PCIe chip, but the 4-port ones seem to be a PCIe-to-PCIX bridge plus a Sil3124. For the capability/merit of each chip, the Linux drivers seem to be a lot more mature, in terms of being bug-free and of supporting NCQ, port multipliers, and hotswap, so this list might give you some idea of each chip's merit: http://ata.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/SATA_hardware_features What you really want to know though is which SATA chips work well under Solaris. There's no good answer IMHO. The obvious approach is to buy the same chips that Sun puts into the hardware they support under contract, but that's worked poorly for some people on the list. I think you should search the archives for works-for-me reports yourself---I could tell you what I'd buy if I were going to buy something, but that's worth even less than someone saying ``works here'' because I haven't bought it. I gave up on the whole mess, let Linux handle the SATA and export iSCSI targets. Maybe running Solaris as a domU under Linux would be faster and still give you access to working free-software SATA drivers. pgptR98wjKcIE.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] SIL3124 stability?
js == Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: js If it works for your system, be happy. I mentioned that the js controller may not be usable in all systems as it hangs up the js BIOS in my machine if there is a disk connected to the card. There are three different chips under discussion, though. Neither positive report in the thread is for the 3114, but for the other two chips. I agree the company is sketchy---it's the same one that made those crappy CMD PATA chips that crippled teh IDE in the Sun Ultra 5/10, and the older CMD chips that corrupted data on lots of Linux systems. But they may be the least of evils, and one of very few options for people who care about software freedom. Also they seem to be the only ones actually making SATA port multipliers instead of just talking about them. sil3124 works fine for me in Linux, with EFI labels. haven't tried solaris because the SATA stack doesn't work under SPARC. pgpQDcfMDCH3r.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] SIL3124 stability?
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 07:40:09PM +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: There is no option to use the card+disk in a differnt machine. That's a shame, that could tell you a lot. I read that there might be a firmware upgrade but I have not been able to find a dowload. http://www.siliconimage.com/docs/3124_6409.zip Did you updated from a DOS floppy? Yes. -brian -- Coding in C is like sending a 3 year old to do groceries. You gotta tell them exactly what you want or you'll end up with a cupboard full of pop tarts and pancake mix. -- IRC User (http://www.bash.org/?841435) ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
