Jim Cobabe:
I wept when I learned of this sad news. Is something amiss
in the Church, that the Lord would allow one of his temples
to be destroyed?
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It is sad, but I seriously doubt anything unusual is amiss.
I think there was a construction accident.
Larry Jackson
Noel B favored us with:
For an answer I would have to look to God and the prophet. When I listen
to President Hinckley, I hear a very positive message. I have to assume
that each one of us must seek confirmation of that message from God that
we are a righteous people and have favor in His eyes.
On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 06:53:08 -0800 John W. Redelfs
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Noel B favored us with:
For an answer I would have to look to God and the prophet. When I
listen
to President Hinckley, I hear a very positive message. I have to
assume
that each one of us must seek
I think the church as a whole is paying a lot more attention to the Book of
Mormon. I can't say what was happening before I joined it but I see a lot
of emphasis on it. Failure to read it on an individual basis is not a
collective matter.
Stacy.
At 11:44 AM 07/12/2003 -0500, you wrote:
On
On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 06:53:08 -0800 John W. Redelfs
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Noel B favored us with:
For an answer I would have to look to God and the prophet. When I
listen
to President Hinckley, I hear a very positive message. I have to
assume
that each one of us must seek confirmation
At 10:44 AM 7/12/2003, Paul wrote:
John,
President Bensen is dead. What he said has no bearing anymore regarding
the direction and present condition of the Church, let alone the future
direction. This responsibility lies upon the shoulders of the current
leadership.
If the Church is still under
On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 14:12:11 -0600 Steven Montgomery
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At 10:44 AM 7/12/2003, Paul wrote:
John,
President Bensen is dead. What he said has no bearing anymore
regarding
the direction and present condition of the Church, let alone the
future
direction. This
On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 15:39:10 -0500 Paul Osborne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
[snip]
current
Prophet does not necessarily mean the curse is no longer in
effect.
Ok, ok. No need to roast me over the coals. ;-)
What has President Hinckley said about this stuff during his
Presidency?
John W. Redelfs wrote:
President Benson said the whole Church was under condemnation because
we don't properly value the Book of Mormon. Has that changed? I
don't think so, but I suppose I could be wrong. When I hear glowing
reports about the growth of the Church, and how well we are
I suppose I could make a list of what I think one ought to do to have one's
calling and election made sure, but I think many people, including myself,
would never be able to do it. What do I think it would take?
1. A testimony of the truthfulness of the Book of Mormon.
2. Belief and
Stacy Smith favored us with:
I suppose I could make a list of what I think one ought to do to have
one's calling and election made sure, but I think many people, including
myself, would never be able to do it. What do I think it would take?
My list would be much shorter:
1. A testimony that
I can't say I've met all your list either. If I can't say I've met all
mine or all yours it looks like Jesus may have pity on me or I won't make
it either.
Stacy.
At 04:41 PM 07/12/2003 -0800, you wrote:
Stacy Smith favored us with:
I suppose I could make a list of what I think one ought to
Before one's calling and election is made sure, one key step is
remission of sins through the baptism of fire and the Holy Ghost. I
would venture that few there are that have sought after and received
this blessing that, according to 2 Nephi 31:17-18, is a requirement
before you are solidly on
Isn't that what we seek when we take the Sacrament?
Stacy.
At 08:54 PM 07/12/2003 -0400, you wrote:
Before one's calling and election is made sure, one key step is
remission of sins through the baptism of fire and the Holy Ghost. I
would venture that few there are that have sought after and
This is what Enos received after his wrestle with God which took him
into the forest for a day and night of prayer. There are a number of
descriptions in the scriptures on this topic: Mosiah 4, Enos, 3Nephi
12:1-2, and one of my favorites, DC39:6.
I don't think it is the same thing.
Noel
All right. Let's get practical. If one hasn't the temple marriage one
wants I suppose it's fruitless to even try for anything like this. But if
one were to eventually get that and everything else being equal, how would
someone do this in a modern setting? In an apartment? Do you mean to
Stacy Smith:
All right. Let's get practical. If one hasn't the temple
marriage one wants I suppose it's fruitless to even try for
anything like this.
Larry Jackson:
I believe it would take a successful temple marriage.
Stacy:
But if one were to eventually get that and everything else
Unfortunately, the reality is that I'd have to have a temple marriage
first. I'm not sure I have a shot at that anymore but at least I'm hoping
like all the others who have decided to gamble on a nonmember because they
love them.
Stacy.
At 11:53 PM 07/12/2003 -0400, you wrote:
I watched a
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