On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 5:42 PM, Danny McPherson <da...@tcb.net> wrote:
>
>> so, to me, this is just 'more objects with a tight(er) timeframe on
>> delivery' right?
>>
>> meaning: today you have (for sake of the conversation) relatively
>> static content in the repository, where data changes 1/2/3
>> objects/day, and it's important to get the data distributed, but
>> (again, for the conversation) 24hrs is 'fine' as a timeline between:
>> "publish object" and "rendered onto the router".
>>
>> but: tomorrow if you followed (for the sake of the conversation)
>> Sriram's model of 'roll router keys hourly to ensure ttls on routes'
>> (loosely paraphrased and with times I don't even think he put into his
>> slides/discussions), you'd be talking about #-of-routers * 24 objects
>> changing every day, and with a timescale for: "publish" to "render" on
>> the order of 1hr. (likely less than 1hr, something closer to 5-10
>> minutes has been discussed previously).
>>
>> right?
>
>
> Yeah, I think so under steady state.
>
> It gets more interesting when the RIR is attacked and I can't reach them, or
> I have a failure of a control card or systems where I cache them locally, or
> something to that effect.
>
> AND I have to know when *everyone* else in the system picks them up and
> pushes them out to their routers in preparation for validation so that I
> know when it's safe to starting signing with them, etc..

true, but the repository conversation stops at: "all gatherers in the
system have the data"

inside each ASN it's really up to the ASN operator to get from
gatherer -> cache -> router in a 'timely fashion'.
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