MaryAnn, The gentleman from American Biotech Labs shows a remarkable ignorance regarding his product and silver nanoparticles in general. However, he has a product that provides him a livelihood and I can understand his desire to protect that at any cost.
Scientific studies have demonstrated that silver particles are not antimicrobial. It has been demonstrated that only silver ions are antimicrobial. The antimicrobial effectiveness of silver particles actually comes from silver oxide that forms on the silver particle. Silver oxide is partially soluble in water and it is the silver oxide in solution that provides the antimicrobial effect of silver particles. I should note that ionic silver is also immediately effective when used topically and does not have the low solubility issue that silver oxide has. ABL clearly must know this because their product is based on the fact that by using hydrogen peroxide in their colloidal silver generation process, they create a silver oxide on their silver particles as part of the process. This will certainly speed up the killing of microbes when used topically because you do not need to wait for the silver oxide to form. But it probably does nothing for orally ingested ABL colloidal silver. In stomach acid the silver oxide coating will be converted to silver chloride. And a scientific study conducted on silver nanoparticles indicates that silver particles of the size in the ABL colloidal silver will also be rapidly converted to silver chloride. Therefore there is really no difference between ABL colloidal silver and ionic silver when used in vivo. While I would love to trade barbs with Don, there is really no productive outcome when dealing with someone with his mindset. He may however be interested in the following study. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16905140 High chemical reactivity of silver nanoparticles toward hydrochloric acid - Steve BTW, the comments regarding negative and positive charged particles is just ignorant marketing BS. -----Original Message----- From: MaryAnn Helland [mailto:marmar...@bellsouth.net] Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 9:07 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>Rebuttal from ABC The following is a request for information from the person questioning me on the use of our home-made CS, and the response from the guy at ABC. Who is Don, anyway -- anyone know? I would appreciate responses from our CS-experts here, so that I can respond back. Thanks. MA > > >This is what I received on CS from the ABL contact....and it is not kind....so >I > >am not posting it to the list. I prefer to not incite people which only drives >them deeper into denial and cancels the opportunity for me to teach and them >to >learn. But you can see that there is difficulty in understanding the science >with the general public. >Begin forwarded message: > >From: info <i...@lifesilver.com> >> >>Date: September 28, 2010 10:29:47 AM MDT >> >>Subject: Re: need some clarification here...for my clients >> >>Whew, that is a long thread. Right up front I see the common problem, though. >>I > >>was once a member of a yahoo list called silver pets. They were, just as this >>one is, unable to grasp the difference between ionic home made silver, and >>pure > >>elemental silver solutions. To attempt to explain, to people like this, the >>very >> >>fundamental differences in the two types of silver preparations is greeted as >>heresy. They are so locked into their erroneous beliefs that nothing could >>convince them differently. I finally wrote them off as Luddites, and moved on. >> >>Your group seems of much the same mindset. The fact that large amounts of >>silver >> >>are being retained in their horses indicates large particle, ionic silver >>ingestion. Ionic particles, because of their positive particle electron >>charge, > >>readily begin bonding with other organic substances, as soon as they enter >>the >>organism. This creates salts and compounds which are hard to excrete and add >>nothing to the healing process, because they are no longer silver, but >>something >> >>else. This is why they are >> >> >>The ABL products pass through the body unchanged, due to their negative >>electron >> >>charge. They are excreted quickly. They do not get bound up in other chemical >>relationships. They have absolutely no effect on the mineral balance of the >>organism, as they do not form compounds. >> >>Fat chance that you will convince your "colleagues" of this. They are locked >>into the theory that; "Why should I pay for something that I can make for >>pennies?" "It all the same stuff." >> >>I could go through this thread, point by point, and present credible, >>independent, peer reviewed science to support these facts, but why bother? >>They > >>either will not, or cannot grasp the scientific principle involved. >> >>You can always cut/paste excerpts from the studies listed on my Clinical >>Studies >> >>page. I will be putting up several more studies this week, since ABL has >>taken >>down their research page. I am glad I save some of those. I attached the Penn >>State. peer reviewed and journal published study. It was the basis for the >>3rd >>US Patent. This patent actually protects the elemental silver particle. >> >> >>Good luck with this gang. I fear that you are tilting at windmills. Some >>people > >>will defend their ignorance to their graves. I lost three friends over the >>past > >>18 months. They all went into the hospital for serious conditions (cancer, >>MS), > >>but they all died within days from sepsis of resistant infections that they >>contracted after entering the hospital, not their original complaint. Two, >>that > >>I found out about early, were offered free silver. It was declined. They were >>both in Tulsa and Lori could have had it in their hands within an hour. Sigh... >> >>I attached a couple of documents that you might find helpful. >> >>Don >> >> -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: <mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe> Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: <mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com> List Owner: Mike Devour <mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com>
