Sorry, that should have been 'about' ...dee

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> On 3 Nov 2014, at 08:58, Dee <d...@deetroy.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi Gail, this is the chap I was talking as out - Daddybob!  He was the guy 
> who told me off when I advised caution with MMS but later admitted (to the 
> list) that he had serious problems...dee
> 
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>> On 2 Nov 2014, at 19:02, Gail Naranjo <wanda85...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Jason & group,
>> 
>> In the early years of MMS we all seemed to jump on the bandwagon.   Those of 
>> us on various health/alternative lists I'm on anyway and we shared our 
>> experience.  Remember Daddybob, he was a regular of many lists I visit.  
>> Anyway his personality is the type to jump in and as he often said, 'get er 
>> done'  He started having heart issues, and sorry I can't remember what they 
>> were, but he attributed them to his MMS use.  Others wrote in complaining 
>> about heart palpitation after starting the MMS as well.  It is something to 
>> be aware of that is due attention.
>> 
>> There was a guy on the MMS list I was on that differed with Jim about the 
>> chemistry.   He did believe in the use of MMS but at a different 
>> concentration.   I think that was his main difference.  It's been years 
>> since this this happened so might not remember exactly how he differed.   
>> Anyway, some of the members on the list that were involved with the church 
>> were so rude to him.  One guy even called him a pharmaceutical whore.   
>> Sorry for the language but wanted to give the direct quote.  Whether  this 
>> man was a pharmaceutical rep or not, I do not know, but his behavior came 
>> across as professional and polite, while the church members were blatantly 
>> rude, which was a real turn off to me.  
>> 
>> I really know nothing about chemistry and certainly am not a pharm rep, just 
>> a person with a chronic illness trying to recover.   But I do know if you 
>> have a viable, good product, it will sale itself.  One does not have to use 
>> ill manner tactics to make a sale.
>> 
>> I have also notice when someone does speak out with a different opinion 
>> regarding the safety, effectiveness, or Jim himself, they are not received 
>> graciously.  Not everybody frequenting these lists that speak out against it 
>> are working for the enemy, which is usually the church response.   In fact, 
>> I think most of us here are people trying to find answers for our health 
>> problems, the majority are anyway.   And then some are also in some form of 
>> alternative business promoting their business.
>> 
>> Regarding Jim and his business:   Anybody who is in an alternative field 
>> must abide by the law of the land.  People have been put in jail that I 
>> personally don't think deserve to go to jail.   For their own protection, 
>> they better abide by the law or get out.
>> 
>> Speaking as a customer of many different alternative protocols, I want to 
>> have the freedom to be able to try anything that I think might benefit me.  
>> I think if people would present their product with plain old manners and 
>> stop the bickering, it would go a long way and we might be able to reach an 
>> educated decision much sooner.
>> 
>> Gail
>> 
>> 
>> On Sunday, November 2, 2014 11:13 AM, Jason <ja...@eytonsearth.org> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> ...I agree Tony.  Jim was dead wrong when he developed his initial 
>> protocols, and may tried to tell him so.  He not only ignored them, but 
>> was quite belligerent, and he had absolutely no real training in 
>> oxidative therapies.
>> 
>> Then, of course, he changed his protocols, which are now much safer.
>> 
>> In my opinion, ozone is more effective and certainly safer because the 
>> exact concentrations that the body can safely tolerate are well 
>> established by extensive research.
>> 
>> ~Jason
>> 
>> 
>> On 11/2/2014 9:47 AM, Tony Moody wrote:
>> > Hallo AJR,
>> >
>> > Umm, Call me what you want. But most of my relevant credentials are 
>> > alternate or
>> > complementary healing of one sort or another.
>> >
>> > I tried MMS at the lowest dose and it made me sick as a dog and it took me 
>> > at least 5 weeks
>> > to get back to my normal self. There was absolutely no help at the time 
>> > from the MMS group.
>> > I was not the only one, there had already been several and there were many 
>> > after me who
>> > complained. We were all shut down and poo-pood and ignored. Then a few 
>> > chemically
>> > orientated people chimed in and pointed out what could be happening 
>> > physiologically or
>> > biologically. .. then Jim Humble changed his formulation to a much weaker 
>> > solution or used a
>> > different acid or something. I'd lost interest in the MMS and the deaf 
>> > bigots surrounding the
>> > concept.
>> >
>> 
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