Looks like it is working as indicated below.

I think it is fine.

The server is just busy these days.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pete McNeil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 11:51 AM
Subject: Re: [sniffer] RunExeSvc for Persistent sniffer.


> Are the Polled waited: numbers changing periodically?
>
> If they are high and you are also showing other instances w/ message
> traffic then that would indicate that the persistent instance is not
> running in the same working directory with the others - that would also
> cause you to see no real effect.
>
> If you are seeing small numbers (30, 60, 90, and so forth) then it is
> definitely working and should be making a difference.
>
> I'd like to continue this off-list until I understand your setup better.
> Please send me a note (support@) with a short segment (a few pages) of
your
> current sniffer log. I would also like to know about your hardware, your
> current CPU %, and your typical CPU%.
>
> Thanks!
> _M
>
> At 11:41 AM 3/19/2004, you wrote:
> >Yes it should be running I see the window with the Polled waited:
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Pete McNeil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 11:33 AM
> >Subject: Re: [sniffer] RunExeSvc for Persistent sniffer.
> >
> >
> > > That is unusual. You should see a marked drop in the "queue time" in
the
> > > sniffer logs and generally a drop in overall system loads.
> > >
> > > If the persistent instance is running then it will be the only
instance
> > > that loads the rule-base - and that will happen infrequently. The
other
> > > instances will still load, but they will always be clients - so they
will
> > > post their job and then go to sleep waiting for it to be completed.
> > >
> > > Are you sure the persistent instance is running?
> > >
> > > _M
> > >
> > > At 10:35 AM 3/19/2004, you wrote:
> > > >When I installed it in a persistence mode I notice very little
> >improvement.
> > > >
> > > >When my server is busy it can load 30 or more instances of the
program.
> > > >
> > > >Is it loading from the drive or is it taking off the persistence one.
> > > >
> > > >Fred
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: "Pete McNeil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 9:01 AM
> > > >Subject: Re: [sniffer] RunExeSvc for Persistent sniffer.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Matt,
> > > > >
> > > > > You're right. It's pretty hard to tell from those images. Rush
hour
> >will
> > > > > prove out though - I'm sure. When I installed the persistent
engine on
> >our
> > > > > NT test bed we were pegged at 100% with a few dips. (It's not
always
> >that
> > > > > way, but it was when I tested it because I wanted harsh
conditions.)
> >After
> > > > > installing it the cpu graph dropped well below 50%. I'm sure there
are
> > > >some
> > > > > exponential load dynamics going on there too - but none the less
it
> >was
> > > > > inpressive.
> > > > >
> > > > > I think you will see a more accurate picture in your sniffer logs.
The
> > > >left
> > > > > column of timing figures should drop significantly.
> > > > >
> > > > > We shall see - it's a marathon not a sprint :-)
> > > > >
> > > > > _M
> > > > >
> > > > > At 02:13 AM 3/19/2004, you wrote:
> > > > > >Pete,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Although inconclusive, some screen caps of Task Manager seems to
show
> >a
> > > > > >dramatic reduction in many of the peaks with the service turned
on.
> > > > > >It's hard to tell the exact impact due to the virus scanners not
> >always
> > > > > >being called, and SKIPIFWEIGHT settings disabling a mountain of
> >custom
> > > > > >Declude filters which both are processor hogs, but the smaller
peaks.
> >I
> > > > > >believe the following before and after screen caps are
representative
> >of
> > > > > >the impact (I looked for similar E-mail hit frequencies):
> > > > > >
> > > > > >    Before
> > > > > >    http://www.mailpure.com/no_service.gif
> > > > > >
> > > > > >    After (with service)
> > > > > >    http://www.mailpure.com/service.gif
> > > > > >
> > > > > >The real test will have to wait for rush hour though.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Thanks,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Matt
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Pete McNeil wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>The service definition takes care of the persistence. Your
Declude
> > > >config
> > > > > >>should not be changed.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>_M
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>At 01:05 AM 3/19/2004, you wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>>I'm going to give this one a try right now since I have the
> >Resource
> > > >Kit
> > > > > >>>installed already.  Just one question...do I need to change the
> > > > > >>>arguments in my Declude config, or will the service definition
take
> > > >care
> > > > > >>>of the 'persistence'?
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>Thanks,
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>Matt
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>Bill Boebel wrote:
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>>We've been using svrany for years with several custom
applications
> >and
> > > >it
> > > > > >>>>works great.  This utility has been around since the NT4
Resource
> > > >Kit...
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>  http://www.pyeung.com/pages/win2k/userdefinedservice.html
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>Bill
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>-----Original Message-----
> > > > > >>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > >>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Pete McNeil
> > > > > >>>>Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 12:25 AM
> > > > > >>>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > >>>>Subject: [sniffer] RunExeSvc for Persistent sniffer.
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>Hello folks,
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>We've been continuing to test the new persistence enabled
sniffer
> > > >engine
> > > > > >>>>and some utilities that will allow it to run as a service.
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>We found a free utility that seems to be very solid, and very
> >simple.
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>http://www.judoscript.com/goodies/RunExeSvc/runexesvc.html
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>One of the scripts we used is:
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>debug=false
> > > > > >>>>cmdline=c:\Projects\sniffer2-3\TestBed\snfrv2r2.exe
> >xnk05x5vmipeaof7
> > > > > >>>>persistent
> > > > > >>>>home=c:\Projects\sniffer2-3\TestBed
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>(Note: The mismatch between the sniffer2-3 directory and the
> > > >snfrv2r2.exe
> > > > > >>>>is not a type-o. We re-branded the 2-3 to use the snfrv2r2
license
> >in
> > > >our
> > > > > >>>>example - it was easier that than creating a new license. Note
> >also
> > > >that
> > > > > >>>>the cmdline parameter includes the full path to the
executable -
> >you
> > > >will
> > > > > >>>>need to do this also. We could not get the service to start on
our
> >NT
> > > >test
> > > > > >>>>bed without including the full path to the .exe)
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>We've tested this on our XP based Toshiba laptop, and on our
NT4
> >based
> > > > > >>>>IMail test bed. Both seem to setup and work fine. Auto-start
works
> > > >fine, so
> > > > > >>>>does logging out and logging in.
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>Once you've set up a persistent sniffer instance as a service,
go
> >into
> > > >your
> > > > > >>>>services control panel (usually via administrative tools), set
the
> > > >service
> > > > > >>>>to start automatically, and start it.
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>A window will appear for the program - do not close the
window!
> > > > > >>>>Minimize it.
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>When you log out sniffer will continue to run in the
background.
> >When
> > > >you
> > > > > >>>>log in the window will be visible again - it's harmless. If
you
> >close
> > > >it
> > > > > >>>>though you will have ended the sniffer.exe out from under the
> >service.
> > > >This
> > > > > >>>>won't cause you any trouble, but you won't get the benefit of
the
> > > > > >>>>persistent server until you stop and start the service again
to
> > > >relaunch
> > > > > >>>>the program.
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>Using RunExeSvc, the actual service is the RunExeSvc program.
That
> > > >program
> > > > > >>>>launches sniffer as a client and stands in as a service stub
for
> >your
> > > >OS.
> > > > > >>>>You can use this to run all sorts of things... The developer
uses
> >it
> > > >to run
> > > > > >>>>Java based web servers, for example.
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>Eventually we will build a win32 service version of Message
> >Sniffer,
> > > >but
> > > > > >>>>for now this is the fastest way we can bring you the features
you
> > > >need.
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>Please give this a try and let us know how it works for you.
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>If you find a different utility that you like better then
please
> >let
> > > >us
> > > > > >>>>know.
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>Thanks!
> > > > > >>>>_M
> > > > > >>>>
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