Hey, Pete.

I contacted one of the recipients and ran down one of those intermediate
hops which triggered on truncate.gbudb.net ... It was an intermediate
hop at AOL (rly presumably means relay)

Received: from smtprly-dd03.mx.aol.com (smtprly-dd03.mx.aol.com
[205.188.84.131]) by cia-mb07.mx.aol.com (v128.3) with ESMTP id
MAILCIAMB071-d4074be4e089be; Fri, 07 May 2010 23:54:50 -0400

This IP address seems to bridge the gap between AOL webmail and SMTP
delivery. In this case, the user used the AOL webmail and then forwarded
the message to the mailbox on our system.

The GBU list is emitting TXT records as well as the A record, perhaps it
would be useful to actually state the IP as well in that text.

C:\temp>dig @8.8.8.8 131.84.188.205.truncate.gbudb.net any

; <<>> DiG 9.7.0rc1 <<>> @8.8.8.8 131.84.188.205.truncate.gbudb.net any
; (1 server found)
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 55101
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;131.84.188.205.truncate.gbudb.net. IN  ANY

;; ANSWER SECTION:
131.84.188.205.truncate.gbudb.net. 3600 IN A    127.0.0.2
131.84.188.205.truncate.gbudb.net. 3600 IN TXT  "GBUdb Cloud Truncate c
> 0.2, p > 0.9"

;; Query time: 812 msec
;; SERVER: 8.8.8.8#53(8.8.8.8)
;; WHEN: Mon May 10 13:08:17 2010
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 117

I suggest that if others find this valuable as well, and you find it
reasonable, that the text could look like this:

"GBUdb Cloud Truncate c > 0.2, p > 0.9 for [205.188.84.131]"

I'll send the whole header to support@ in case you are interested in
this particular IP.


Andrew.
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:snif...@sortmonster.com] On
Behalf Of Colbeck, Andrew
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 9:03 AM
To: Message Sniffer Community
Subject: [sniffer] Re: Opening truncate.gbudb.net


I looked at the effectiveness of this test and I like what I'm seeing.
The volume isn't high, but it is making a difference in the "edge cases"
that are close to my "hold weight".

In particular, I'm finding that it is triggering on pump and dump DKIM
spam from fresh netblocks that would otherwise leak into my mailboxes.
Some of those also trigger SNIFFERSCAM.

So if you don't trust the global "truncate" test alone, it's a good test
to combine with other weighted tests.

P.s. I'm also finding that truncate is triggering on email from some ISP
users when I check multiple hops in the header. That probably means that
I'm finding users with zombie infected computers, but I'm letting that
mail in, so checking which IP addresses were hit is a small problem if I
want to contact those people.


Andrew.

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:snif...@sortmonster.com] On
Behalf Of Pete McNeil
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 2:08 PM
To: Message Sniffer Community
Subject: [sniffer] Opening truncate.gbudb.net


Hi Sniffer Folks,

We have been testing a blacklist based on real-time GBUdb data 
(generated from Message Sniffer).

We have decided to experiment with opening up the blacklist for a wider 
audience and so as of now you can use truncate.gbudb.net as an ip4r
test.

You should get a result of 127.0.0.1 if the IP is well into the truncate

range -- That is: truncate.gbudb.net is designed to be 
ultra-conservative so that it should be safe to reject connections based

on the test in most cases. This also means that it won't block 
everything -- only the worst of the worst. That said, the folks who have

been testing it have reported that it did drop a significant amount of 
traffic from their systems on average.

Please keep us all posted about how it's working for you.

Thanks,

_M

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