Hi Andy.
I attended the Montreal workshop last Thursday. I too see myself as a
technical artist and I too was intimidated by it. But I spend the
weekend thinking about it and I think it's normal to be intimidated
right now, but things will change.
It's a lot like ICE, except that you need to code. It's also much
broader in its applications. Coding is being done in python for the ui,
logic, connections, etc. And KL is the language they invented for the
performance critical parts. If we were to compare it to ICE, python
would be used to connect the nodes, declare the variables and the PPGs,
and KL would be used to code the nodes themselves.
Remember how ICE was dry when it first came out? Then later Phil Taylor
released his compounds pack and then more and more users released tons
of compounds. Today, when you want to achieve something new in ICE, you
better look in rray.de/xsi first before wasting time reinventing the
wheel again.
I guess the same thing will happen with Creative Platform. The Fabric
Engine guys are developping things at a surprising rate. The same
software will be very different in one year. I can't imagine what it
will be in five years. When everybody start to share Python and KL
classes, then it will be easier for a technical artist to write cool
plugins or even complete applications without thinking much about KL and
high performance processing.
That being said, we will still have to spend time learning it. It's
quite different from what we already know.
But it does rock.
Cheers.
Francois
On 09/11/2012 19:11, Andy Moorer wrote:
Helge, I find the creation platform both really exciting, and from
what I've seen as it grows its learning curve intimidating.
I'm an artist-turned-TD and a script monkey largely educated by
watching your jscript videos and lectures at Barnyard, and later
taking Raffaele's workshop... plus self training, bothering folks like
you, Graham and Brad, and a (nasty) year spent in Mel.
In other words, I'm (I think) a pretty typical non-developer technical
artist.
Is the Creation Platform something for folks like me, who spends about
40% of my time scripting and the rest in creating assets and
reasonably complex stuff in ICE? Or is it targeted squarely at TDs who
spend the bulk of their time scripting, ie more for those at the
developer end of the scale?
Not that I'm not willing to always be stretching my capabilities to
grow as a TD and artist. I'm just trying to figure out who you see as
the typical Fabric Creation Platform user.
Kudos to the regular outreach and amazingly fast and
production-targeted development of Fabric, it's been really awesome to
watch it come to life.
On Nov 9, 2012, at 2:53 AM, Helge Mathee <helge.mat...@gmx.net
<mailto:helge.mat...@gmx.net>> wrote:
yes - the CreationPlatformCAPI will be shipped working on all three
operating systems.
On 08.11.2012 23:01, Xavier Lapointe wrote:
Had the same question on my mind actually.
On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 8:58 AM, Eric Thivierge <ethivie...@gmail.com
<mailto:ethivie...@gmail.com>> wrote:
So the integration with Softimage is working on Linux?
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Eric Thivierge
http://www.ethivierge.com
On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 3:40 AM, Helge Mathee
<helge.mat...@gmx.net <mailto:helge.mat...@gmx.net>> wrote:
Linux is fully supported for everything. As is OSX.
On 08.11.2012 15:01, Raffaele Fragapane wrote:
Hey Helge,
This might be of enough general interest to post here
rather than in private.
How are you guys faring on the linux front these days?
On Nov 8, 2012 8:08 PM, "Helge Mathee"
<helge.mat...@gmx.net <mailto:helge.mat...@gmx.net>> wrote:
Thanks guys!
Now, I've stated that on the Creation Platform mailing
list already:
I am aware that people are impressed by the videos we
publish and interested in Creation
Platform generally. We are doing workshops and user
group both in Montreal and London
this month, but aside from that I would like to
encourage people to start evaluating
Creation Platform for production scenarios. I realize
that there's a learning curve attached to
that, so I am willing to provide as much help as
necessary and lead the way for anybody
interested in seriously evaluating CP. At this stage I
am looking for production references
for certain features, so please mail me privately if
you are interested in collaborating.
Best!
-H
On 08.11.2012 09:17, Andreas Böinghoff wrote:
wow! this is getting more and more exciting!
On 11/7/2012 9:06 PM, Paul Doyle wrote:
Hi guys – this is a preview of the work that Helge is
doing on the Creation Platform API:
https://vimeo.com/groups/fabric/videos/53026583
The new API provides full access to all CP features
in C++. This includes high performance data access
(void * access to internal data) as well as
SceneGraph level features such as Undo, Manipulation,
Import / Export etc.
We’ll be presenting this in more detail at the
Softimage London usergroup on Tuesday 13^th November
(http://www.softimagecreatives.com/siclondon/?page_id=1218).
We’ll be showing this running in Maya (as well as
demoing on Softimage again) at our London usergroup
on Wednesday 14^th November
(http://fabricengine.com/2012/10/creation-workshops-montreal-london/).
Let us know what you think. Looking forward to seeing
some of you next week :)
Paul
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