Yup I think it was interpenetration.  I added a thickness of 0.001 to the
knife and it is working ok now!  Now the wall falls down instead of
exploding.

Thanks a lot guys!


2013/2/26 Emilio Hernandez <emi...@e-roja.com>

> Hi Oleg.  I am using the Iterative mode.
>
>
> 2013/2/26 Emilio Hernandez <emi...@e-roja.com>
>
>> Mmm.  That is a good point.  I will give the knife some thickness to
>> shatter the object to avoid the interpenetration if there is some.
>>
>>
>> 2013/2/26 Stefan Kubicek <s...@tidbit-images.com>
>>
>>> I suspect the pieces from the shattered object are either
>>> interpenetrating right from start or have a collision offset greater than
>>> zero. Or you have found a bug.
>>>
>>>
>>>  One thing I found is that I shattered a cube with Implosia and then
>>>> applied
>>>> a Momentum DRB.  When I start simulating it kind of explodes instead of
>>>> just coming down.  If I shatter the same cube with the ICE shatter
>>>> compound
>>>> and then I apply the MOM DRB it behaves different and it comes down as
>>>> it
>>>> should.  This is odd...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2013/2/26 Stefan Kubicek <s...@tidbit-images.com>
>>>>
>>>>  Hey Rob,
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks for the heads up. The change list includes lots of issues I
>>>>> reported some months ago,
>>>>> I'm glad to see version 4 is taking shape since 3 did have some
>>>>> unnecessary limitations
>>>>> and oddities which are being addressed now as it seems. It's such a
>>>>> cool
>>>>> piece of software
>>>>> with so much potential....
>>>>>
>>>>>  There seems to be a new version coming:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.si-community.com/****community/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=**
>>>>>> **3427<http://www.si-community.com/**community/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=**3427>
>>>>>> <http://www.si-**community.com/community/**viewtopic.php?f=4&t=3427<http://www.si-community.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=3427>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rob
>>>>>>
>>>>>> \/-------------\/-------------****---\/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 26-2-2013 7:40, Leonard Koch wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  From my experience of working with Momentum/Implosia on a few jobs
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> watching some of the videos by MirVadim I would say, that RayFire is
>>>>>>> better and a lot more intuitive for complex shattering.
>>>>>>> The actual simulation speed and directability of the shattered pieces
>>>>>>> however is many times better in Momentum.
>>>>>>> For actual production I would be a lot more confident to make a
>>>>>>> simulation look the way it is supposed to with Momentum.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Shattering, dynamic UVs and mainly caching are all still a bite iffy
>>>>>>> with exocortex's solution, but the directability is unbeaten.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 4:54 AM, Emilio Hernandez <emi...@e-roja.com
>>>>>>> <mailto:emi...@e-roja.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     How far is Implosia with Momentum to achieve something like this?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?****feature=player_embedded&v=**<http://www.youtube.com/watch?**feature=player_embedded&v=**>
>>>>>>> mn3ifA1gcD8#<http://www.**youtube.com/watch?feature=**
>>>>>>> player_embedded&v=mn3ifA1gcD8#<http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=mn3ifA1gcD8#>
>>>>>>> **>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     I need to break a wall earthquake style with ceiling coming down,
>>>>>>>     small fragments, etc., and wondering if I can beat this Ray Fire
>>>>>>>     stuff with Implosia and Momentum.  Need to win this gig.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Thx.
>>>>>>>
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