Hi Nicole, I work on my own. Sometimes I wish I was in a studio though, but these are often vfx oriented which is not what's show my reel. If you want to see what I do : https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.wandaprint.com_artist_olivier-2Djeannel_&d=DwIFaQ&c=76Q6Tcqc-t2x0ciWn7KFdCiqt6IQ7a_IF9uzNzd_2pA&r=GmX_32eCLYPFLJ529RohsPjjNVwo9P0jVMsrMw7PFsA&m=shlGOhCohw4KB0FU8mSMhTAt8hSPwjWx4v0vVfxpo5Q&s=zS11vS2vxRrPl3IeXuxtci-FnHYYgnkIRiExWw_IrME&e=
I'm not sure Softimage was that fast to setup, but yes I use Houdini as I used Softimage (as I used Lightwave, as I used 3ds, as I used Imagine3D... doh!) You want to be artistly free creative ? Frankly, go Houdini but prepare to suffer at the beginning. Imho, Houdini means 3D, as much as painting means not only "Art of Painting" but also knows "what's a pigment", "what's a canvas", etc. In my opinion 3D engeneering got me much closer to the joy of "doing Art" than my Art school studies, but that's a very personnal statement. Imho, mastering engennering leads to creative freedom ... Houdini is big, offers more, but costs a bit to get into. But by far, it's my best move. After, and I agree with you on the sadness of the current movie production, it all depends on what *you* decide to do and that might not be software related 2017-10-07 18:15 GMT+02:00 Nicole Beeckmans-Jacqmain <arc.ann...@gmail.com>: > hi. > do you say Olivier, > that it is possible in Houdini to work autonomously as an individual, > make a movie on your own the way it is with softi? > with softimage there was a few hours of learning, and you could > start the whole aspects of a production , this ; on your own. > what is your 'radar'? do you work in a studio environment? > > ps i have seen a recent pluralsight tutorial about houdini procedural > building cities, > and i do understand better now the meaning of the conversation we had here > about > developing an 'artist' friendly insight into houdini. > > it is really 'engeneering', in asmuch as we cannot say that Gustav Klimt > or Salvador Dali > (to take mild, provide tempered examples, not Tristan Tzara or James Joyce > say), these XXcentury artists they were *not* engeneers. > if you start building movies the way you build the Empire State Building > or the Millau Bridge by Foster, > then it is not cinema. It used to be cinema. Not to mention the quality of > the 'movies' like BatMan-Marvel or recently Bladerunner 2049, > who i believe at top level of production are built to make audience adapt > to the same sadness which causes the hard > coding effort. Houdini gestion of particles integrates perfectly swell in > that management of audiences. Netflix also. > Art is about Joy, inspiration, visionnary, invention.. Engeneering is > about enslavement and vacuum. Apocalyptic. > > so in regards to this i d be entertained to know if there are independent > users of houdini. > > best regards, > N.B.J. > > > > 2017-10-07 16:21 GMT+02:00 Olivier Jeannel <facialdel...@gmail.com>: > >> Mmmh, I have to admit that rigging is not on my radar atm. >> There should have a few good tutorial (not that many) though, for the >> basic of IK. >> And I think I've see some big prods working with rigs in Houdini as >> described here >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__vimeo.com_222707484&d=DwIFaQ&c=76Q6Tcqc-t2x0ciWn7KFdCiqt6IQ7a_IF9uzNzd_2pA&r=GmX_32eCLYPFLJ529RohsPjjNVwo9P0jVMsrMw7PFsA&m=shlGOhCohw4KB0FU8mSMhTAt8hSPwjWx4v0vVfxpo5Q&s=4Fo0-tUxyHuZGv0PHTTPmMZRv0DFfzibLo_w9bvmvjM&e= >> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__vimeo.com_222707484&d=DwMFaQ&c=76Q6Tcqc-t2x0ciWn7KFdCiqt6IQ7a_IF9uzNzd_2pA&r=GmX_32eCLYPFLJ529RohsPjjNVwo9P0jVMsrMw7PFsA&m=VjVYPMqcEtT0rAui_UWcp9nTKpMooXt3SwdUnuoE7Wc&s=xaXNedVGnj6dRaER6UOahpQE2rQb6yrymw_0tWaBlLY&e=> >> by Michael Goldfarb (I haven't watched the hole lecture). >> But overal you're right Mirko. >> >> >> >> 2017-10-07 16:08 GMT+02:00 Mirko Jankovic <mirkoj.anima...@gmail.com>: >> >>> One note on Houdini that character animation is far away from Softimage. >>> One big stopping point there is lack of riggers. I was trying to look >>> around and Houdini riggers pool is close to non. >>> Now unless you have time and wan't to learn rigging completely as >>> well.... This one is a bit stopping point for me at the moment. >>> ᐧ >>> >>> On Sat, Oct 7, 2017 at 4:03 PM, Olivier Jeannel <facialdel...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I've moved to Houdini. If by far Softimage was easier or more friendly, >>>> I found that Houdini provides a never ending learning curve with unlimited >>>> possibilities. >>>> If you're not affraid to learn and want to give 3D some little sense, I >>>> strongly suggest you (patiently) give Houdini a go. >>>> >>>> 2017-10-07 14:03 GMT+02:00 Mirko Jankovic <mirkoj.anima...@gmail.com>: >>>> >>>>> Old saying was, it still is and will probably be accurate for a bit >>>>> longer... >>>>> >>>>> With Softimage you work, with Maya you workaround >>>>> ᐧ >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Oct 7, 2017 at 1:58 PM, Sven Constable < >>>>> sixsi_l...@imagefront.de> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I heard positive things about Cinema4D from ex-SI users, regarding >>>>>> usability and speed. I never used it and never will but as I was told, it >>>>>> has a fast learning curve and is very well suited for standard tasks. >>>>>> Especially motion graphics and such. >>>>>> >>>>>> But, if you already have a Softimage license and you are used to work >>>>>> with it over the years AND you are a one man show, delivering final >>>>>> animations and renderings, I don’t'see a need to change tools. >>>>>> >>>>>> As other said, the only reason to switch to Maya is when you're >>>>>> planning to work as a freelancer at companies again. If you're in the >>>>>> lucky >>>>>> situation to do your own productions, you're pretty much free to use >>>>>> whatever you want :) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The only slightly uncomfortable thing using Softimage is, that I'm >>>>>> feeling a bit lonely ;) We're using a software that noone will start to >>>>>> learn anymore. There are still ppl on this list and a few forums, but >>>>>> they >>>>>> will diminish further. I'd feel much better if there would be Softimage >>>>>> Inc. around, even if they won't sell or develop the product anymore. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sven >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: >>>>>> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *skuby >>>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, October 07, 2017 10:39 AM >>>>>> *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com >>>>>> *Subject:* I'm lost / Which Software fills the void / help!? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> TLDR = Where do I go/which program? I’m specifically asking hardcore >>>>>> Softimage users who knew all the hotkeys and L/R/MMB clicks/shortcuts, >>>>>> sticky keys, etc.. And wore the software like a custom fit glove. All >>>>>> aspects (modeling/rigging/anim/UV/all of it etc.) I was a freelancer, >>>>>> not >>>>>> a specialist. I won’t be working in the 3D segment of the industry again, >>>>>> but I want a professional generalist tool-kit back in my art toolbox. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -Has Maya become use-able out of the box (according to Softimage >>>>>> vets) (w/ preferences tweaks)? Did anyone make a plug-in or hotkey kit >>>>>> for >>>>>> Softimage users? Does it still take 4+ steps/clicks for everything vs. >>>>>> Softimage even after learning Maya best practices? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Was there any recent talk of bringing Softimage back, even with >>>>>> limited support? I’d pay $30+ per month for it w/Mudbox in a heartbeat. >>>>>> (I’d pay the same for Maya + Mudbox if it was viable for me) (I’m close >>>>>> to >>>>>> giving up on Blender, interface/usability wise it’s still way too far >>>>>> away >>>>>> from Softimage and it took A LOT of effort to get to the point where I am >>>>>> with it now, too much effort). >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> After all this time, how did you solve this problem? Is your solution >>>>>> adequate or still frustrating? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> About Me: I spent a small fortune training Softimage at Vancouver >>>>>> Film School/VFS and then worked as a freelancer for small commercials >>>>>> (before that I trained Maya at SVA for 4 years and I hated the Maya >>>>>> software, I was using it afterwards at a small film and commercial >>>>>> company). More recently I swung over to websites and now have moved >>>>>> fully >>>>>> into 2D Illustration. I miss my 3D toolset (and have practical >>>>>> commercial >>>>>> uses for it now), and I really need to bring it back into my toolbox. >>>>>> I’d >>>>>> be willing to put in the time to re-learn some things that I already know >>>>>> how to do, but I won’t settle for sub-par interfaces, I’m sick of banging >>>>>> my head into the wall. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Please help me, I’m completely lost, frustrated and heart-broken. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Best of luck to all of you. 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