On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 at 05:18, Warren Young <war...@etr-usa.com> wrote:

> That event was the immediate spur to start this Fossil forum project, but
> if you search the archives, there are multiple threads.  Here’s one from
> about a year ago:
>
>
> http://sqlite.1065341.n5.nabble.com/Many-ML-emails-going-to-GMail-s-SPAM-td98685.html
>
> If you think that thread is about a Gmail-specific problem, you’ve
> misunderstood it.  The problem is happening because spam gets reflected off
> this list, so people click “This is Spam” in Gmail, which causes Gmail’s
> spam filters to treat all messages on the list as more spammish.  The more
> that happens, the less likely a given SQLite ML message is to get to a
> Gmail user.
>

In my experience with gmail and this list, 99% of the mails dumped in the
spam folder are from yahoo senders with gmail citing something along the
lines of "the sender claims to be from yahoo.com but gmail could not verify
this." I'm guessing this is related to DMARC/SPF or similar anti-spam
mechanisms - a quick search suggests this is a common issue and nothing to
do with mailing lists in particular.

The remaining 1% feature senders from other domains, but otherwise look
similar. I've never seen an actual spam sent via the mailing list, though
about a year ago I did get a few spams in response to mails I sent to the
list.

Anyway my point is I'm not seeing evidence to support the assertion that
gmail treats messages to the list in general as spammish. I'll keep a
closer eye on what's ending up in spam, to double-check whether my
"sender-identity" theory holds, or whether I'm picking up on a pattern
which isn't really there.

-Rowan
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