AFAIK, erlang achieved true parallel computing which scales very well both 
horizontally and vertically, actually unless python removes gil, in a 
predictable time, python is no match for erlang in true huge parallel computing 
area.


but erlang syntax is just ... too weird, and python fits well in small-medium 
parallel/event triggered system, and inter-process communication would cost 
much less than moving from python to erlang, i think that's why 
python/stackless fit almost all general purpose projects






At 2012-07-14 03:58:13,OvermindDL1 <[email protected]> wrote:
I am sending this offlist as it is not really stackless related, but feel free 
to reply on-list if you wish.

I have embedded stackless into a couple of different programs of which it was 
quite a great fit for, but for servers of anything of this sort I have always 
had the base system run on Erlang.  As Erlang sounds like the exact fit that 
CCP is trying to use stackless python for, I am curious how it compares to how 
an Erlang based system would be.  Do you have any knowledge of the Erlang 
language and systems to make sure a comparison, or anything I could clarify 
about it?  I love using Python, but I have never been able to get the 
performance that I need out of it since I traditionally do massively parallel 
work and the GIL just... hurts, hence why I just use it as an embedded 
scripting language for client programs, but not for our server use.


On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 4:10 AM, Kristján Valur Jónsson <[email protected]> 
wrote:


CarbonIO is a proprietary CCP techology.

It is not fundamentally different from stacklessIO, just a rewrite allowing us 
to implement low level message routing in C, thus bypassing the C/python 
interface, the GIL and other such things, in certain areas.  Because of its 
tight integratino to EVE and our Carbon infrastructure, it is unlikely to be 
made available.

 

K

Frá:[email protected] [[email protected]] fyrir 
hönd chenmin7249 [[email protected]]

Sent: 13. júlí 2012 02:29

To: The Stackless Python Mailing List

Efni: Re: [Stackless] is there any detail about eve's stacklessio technology?


thx very much K, it's very helpful.
BTW, could you please provide more information on the CarbonIO technology? like 
a http link or company name or something, i'm pretty much interested, thx in 
adv.








At 2012-07-09 23:02:18,"Kristján Valur Jónsson" <[email protected]> wrote:


Neiter CarbonIO or StacklessIO are open source.  The latter I always planned to 
dump out there, and I still may do so when I find the time.

We chose windows because that was the most widely available gaming platform at 
the time.  The client and the server use the same engine so Windows it is.  In 
terms of performance it does not really matter what operating system is running.

 

Cheers,

K

Frá:[email protected] [[email protected]] fyrir 
hönd chenmin7249 [[email protected]]
Sent: 9. júlí 2012 07:17
To: The Stackless Python Mailing List
Efni: [Stackless] is there any detail about eve's stacklessio technology?


is there any technology detail like papers, blogs about eve's stacklessio 
technology? is it based on stackless python too like their main game logic?
google only shows the news.







_______________________________________________
Stackless mailing list
[email protected]
http://www.stackless.com/mailman/listinfo/stackless


_______________________________________________
Stackless mailing list
[email protected]
http://www.stackless.com/mailman/listinfo/stackless

Reply via email to