It seems to me that Steve's question has been mostly disregarded rather
than answered.

Not having experience with translucent dial-faces, I didn't know about
their lack of accuracy, and I certainly can't disagree with what two people
have said about that.

It means that the advantage of a translucent dial, for omnidirectional
reading, comes with a disadvantage of less precise accuracy.

But of course a high-mounted dial intended for relatively distant reading
might not be as concerned with fine accuracy as with omnidirectional
viewing. And so translucent dials for all-directions viewing certainly
aren't ruled-out.

Steve's main question was about the choice of dial-face hue, saturation and
brilliance, for easy and safe dial-reading. It seems to me that Steve's
question has been mostly disregarded and discounted rather than answered.

I lied.

I said that I can't speak from experience on that matter.

But my experience with a few paper-on-cardboard tablet-dials is sufficient
to say this:

>From my experience, I can say that you definitely don't want a white
dial-face.

As I said, my first dial had a white dial-face. After that, I switched to
brown, which was a big improvement in usability.

I suggest brown instead of white.

Someone implied that, the more contrast (between light and shadow), the
better. Not so, when the dial-face is too white to look at in bright
sunlight.

As for gray: Gray reflects the visible wavelengths in a relatively equal
mix, resulting in no perceived hue. If some hues are (at least relatively)
to be avoided, then obviously gray isn't what you want.

At each end of the visible spectrum, there is, of course, radiation that
isn't visible.
Infrared (IR) and ultraviolet (UV).

 One possible disadvantage of that is that, when you don't perceive it or
its intensity, then of course you could conceivably get a dangerous amount
(accutely or cumulatively) without any perception of it.

For example, never look at the sun when, due to a haze, or due to the sun
being low in the sky, the sun doesn't look bright. You don't have any
perception of how ingtense the UV or IR is. It could burn your eye without
any feeling of discomfort. (I don't know which of those is more dangerous,
but there have been official warnings to never look at the sun when it
seems less bright due to haze or low altitude.)

Aside from that, there's been evidence that, when people spend a lot of
time outdoors, in bright sunny climate, then many years of exposure to the
bright blue light can cause some long-term cumulative damage. So maybe blue
isn't the most desirable hue.

Yellow, beings the complement of blue, looks yellow because it absorbs
blue, removes blue from the light that it reflects.

Also, yellow isn't particularly close to either end of the visible spectrum.

Brown is defined as:

"Any of a group of colors between red and yellow in hue, of medium to low
brilliance, and of moderate to low saturation."

Then, dark brown would be brown with particularly low brilliance--a
desirable attribute for a sundial-face. Might that be the best color for a
dial-face?

Tan is defined as:

"Light yellowish brown."

...suggesting more brilliance than brown (but surely a lot less than
white), and enough saturation to be perceived as yellow, which seems a good
thing.

Brown, especially dark brown, or maybe tan, sound like acceptable colors
for a dial-face.

By the way, beige is defined as:

"A variable color averaging light grayish yellowish brown."

Sounds like tan, but with distinct grayness, lower saturation, making it
probably less desirable.

In my previous post I said that I bought brown construction-paper, but
didn't use it, and, instead, just marked the hour-lines on the corrugated
cardboard instead of using paper. Actually, I probably did use the brown
construction-paper. It looks better of course, and it allowed me to
conveniently use a carbon-paper template that I'd prepared for drawing the
hour-lines.

Maybe the plain cardboard dial-face would have easier construction in one
way, and less easy construction in another way. Maybe I tried one
all-cardboard dial. It was a long time ago.

Michael Ossipoff















On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 1:04 PM, Steve Lelievre <
steve.lelievre.can...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Fellow sundiallers,
>
> I’m planning to make my next sundial from outdoor grade UV resistant
> plastic sheeting. These come in a range of colours and I want to choose one
> that works well for a sundial. Assuming I get the material grit-blasted or
> somehow treated so that it not shiny, and leaving aesthetic considerations
> aside, what light-related attributes should I be looking for?
>
> As anyone who has played with paper sundials knows, a white surface is
> hard to look at in full sun, even if non-shiny; black would not show any
> shadow. I need something in between: light enough to catch a shadow, but
> dark enough to avoid glare in full sun. I assume that latitude has a
> bearing on this, as the midday sun illuminates more strongly as we approach
> the equator. In my case, the design latitude is around 45 N. My dial will
> be about 25cm in diameter.
>
> Are there any conventions or empirical guidelines, or even practical
> experience, to help me choose?
>
> Which properties matter? I quick read of Wikipedia suggests colours seem
> to involve hue, saturation or luminosity (or parallel concepts in other
> classifications).
>
> Cheers,
> Steve
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