John, Yes and No. The filter roll is almost identical to a normal roll in size and dimensions but you cannot use a standard toilet roll as these are too loosely wound and would cause channeling which would cause the filter not to work properly. (Please remember fluids always choose the path of least resistance.You may be able to obtain a filter roll off the shelf which is identical. MIL-MAC have them made in Australia and I import them from them. These are made from a combination of imported Canadian woodchip and local Austrlian woodchip which includes a certain amount of Aussie hardwood chip I believe. In the States they have toilet rolls which are supplied to the hotel industry that will do the same job. Our standard toilet roll in NZ is only 200 leaves and the 350 leaf ones dont work either as they are also too loose. What you need is a 400 leaf one with a standard 1.5" (38mm) core and 4 or 4.25" (approx 107mm) in width. This fits into a can which restrains it and hold it in place. Cans are sealed top and bottom with a nitrile rubber seal and the only way out for the oil is through the filter. You can always check the filter is working after 5 minutes operating by placing your hand on the filter casing. If its warm you know its working. MIL-MAC buy them by the container or truck load to get the price right and I sell them for NZ$2-50 which sure beats the approx $20 you pay here for a spin on filter which dosnt work properly and is after all only really a screening and protective device. You still leave these in place to do the job they were designed for. It amazes me that the Oil companies and Automobile manufacturers have got away with this planned obsolescence built into virtually every engine made in the last 100 years. Perhaps in the past up to the 70s and maybe early 80s this may have been justifiable but in the last 15 or 20 years the knowledge and ability to build better and longer lasting oils has certainly been there and they have been made. It certainly makes far more sense to remove the contaminants and wear particles as they are created rather than to just remove the extra large ones and leave the wear particles and contaminants to circulate causing continuous wear. This is analgous to sandblasting. As I say in my advertising literature Oil does not wear out, it justs becomes contaminated. If you are removing the contaminants just as fast as they are created your oil will last almost indefinitely. B.r. David
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