I leave you to your anti American truck rantings. Your claims don't match my
experiences.

Steve Spence
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From: "Jean-Leon Morin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 5:27 PM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Thinking about buying a car?


> > too bad vw doesn't make anything I can put 1000 lbs of cargo in. I'll
buy
> > the Ford thanks.
>
> Hmm. A trailer, maybe? I've pulled 2000 lbs of gravel with a Golf. It was
a
> B$%$# to get it moving, but I only needed to do this a couple of times, so
> it wasn't worth getting a 30000$ pile of junk pickup.
>
> The lame-est clause of them all. I need a truck because I haul a lot of
> stuff. Right. You and every guy driving powerstroke fords, and cummins
> dodges.
>
> Of course, if you are one of the 2% of pickup truck drivers that actually
> use their vehicles and load them to capacity ON A REGULAR BASIS, the
comment
> is cordially withdrawn. I would however be interested in hearing your
> service history for the vehicle...
>
> Your brand new US pickup will beat itself to death with a half ton in the
> box. That nice big diesel three quarter ton truck will die a horrible
death
> if you actually work if for what it's "designed for". Most people who
spend
> 30K on a new truck, expecting it to work hard, get nasty surprises... I
> spend enough time getting yelled at by fleet managers and owners who can't
> believe their new Dodges need another front end rebuild.
>
> The front end, suspension, body, chassis, and most of the driveline on
these
> vehicles are built TO FAIL. They have all sorts of built in deficiencies
> that make them simply let go so you pay for servicing. Of course, the
axles
> look big. The chassis looks strong. They can tow a lot of weight. But
> underneath they are as much of a cash cow as a Dodge Neon or a Cavalier.
> Built to fail, to make bucks for the auto service industry.
>
> Now, if you'd like me to name some real vehicles, I can definitely do so.
> Unfortunately most of these companies have since gone the way of the
> dodo-bird, or have gone upscale, building 4x4 SUV's for rich moms and
dads.
> Building trucks that last is bad business practice.
>
> Even highway rigs are getting to this point - built in inefficiencies.
> Lighter weight. Computers. What everyone from fleet managers to the
average
> joe needs to realise is that one teardown or repair to fix problems with
> these built in innefficiencies costs more than to pay the extra 5% fuel
cost
> over the life of the vehicle.
>
> Plus, the environmental cost of building a whole vehicle to replace an old
> one (which would simply need to be rebuilt and repaired) is incredible. If
> cars were built to last and be serviced, they would be easy to keep going.
> However, a larger idea prevails - gouging you for all you've got.
>
> I admit a VW is about as useless a vehicle as a Ford Mustang for someone
who
> needs a truck. But then again, you can't BUY a truck anymore. You have to
> build it as all the "trucks" have long ago left the market, having been
> replaced by luxo-utes with thin tin boxes bolted on to the frame, and most
> people don't need a Ford F250, they simply have to figure out that driving
a
> big empty pickup is a sign of stupidity, not coolness.
>
> J-L
>
>
>
>
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