I don't think alchol can achieve 200 proof, 190 is the best you can do. But it still should give you a benchmark to determine water content..
George Wessel wrote: > I have the same problem, I don't understand what's happening to the > gasoline when you add ethanol and water and I know of no one I can ask > other than this group. > I would be inclined to believe the authors of the various books I've > read that the water will fall out and cause problems. Many years ago I > learned about supersaturation in chemistry class, As long as you kept > heating the water you could add more and more sugar, up to a point that > is. But when you turned the heat down the sugar would fall out and > settle on the bottom because the water couldn't hold that much sugar > with the lower heat level. So I'm guessing that as the temperature > drops the water will fall out until at some temperature all of the water > has fallen out. > > This can be tested easy enought. Tomorrow I will buy a bottle of > Everclear (I think it is 200 proof) so I will know exactly how much > water I will be adding and then see what it takes to get it to fall out. > Start out at let's say, 70 degrees and let it cool down slowly until I > get my water back. I'll let you know what happens. > > George > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ken Provost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > George wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > My thinking is this, hydrous ethanol (let's say 180 proof) is > > a lot > > > >cheaper and faster to make than anhydrous. Mix the hydrous > > ethanol > > > >with your gasoline and let it set until the water falls out and > > then > > > >drain the water off. > > > > > > I can't imagine this would work to dry alcohol, or nobody would > > > bother with the fancy distillations, entraining cosolvents, > > molecular > > > sieves, etc. I know that's not a real answer, but maybe someone else > > > can give the specific reason it doesn't work that way..... > > > > My problem is that I perhaps don't understand the problem. I know > > that water and Ethanol mix well. Too well sometimes. That's what > > distillation is all about. Gasoline and Ethanol also mix well. Water > > and Gasoline don't mix well beyond a certain point. > > > > The next portion is from hearsay. Evidently when you try to combine > > all 3, there is a problem. Supposedly the water drops out of > > suspension, creating a problem. It seems to me, that if the water > > drops out, it is a solution, not a problem. If it doesn't drop out, > > where is the problem? > > I definitely need some more factual input into this topic. > > > > I have an old Chevy pickup that is not highway legal, so I can't > > drive it to town to gas it up. All the fuel for it is hauled in cans > > or barrels. I get a lot of condensation etc. in my fuel, and burn a > > fair amount of water. Sometimes I use Gasohol with 10% Ethanol, > > sometimes I don't. I seldom have any fuel problems. If I do, I dump > > some Isopropyl alcohol in the tank. Isopropyl is only 70% alcohol, > > and 30% water. I don't know how the chemistry works out, but my > > pickup runs very well. I haven't had the carburator off for several > > years, so I don't know what it looks like internally. > > > > Does anyone have the time to do some research into the alleged > > problem? > > > > Motie > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > ADVERTISEMENT > > [Click Here!] > > <http://rd.yahoo.com/M=194081.1994012.3473453.1261774/D=egroupweb/S=1705083269:HM/A=1036972/R=0/*http://www.ediets.com/start.cfm?code=3466> > > > > > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. > > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service > > <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> . > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Buy Stock for $4 and no minimums. FREE Money 2002. http://us.click.yahoo.com/k6cvND/n97DAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/