Marc, 1. Re Ozone layer depletion and it being perceived as 'party line' stuff @biofuel_list or a figment of imagination - please note that alleged software glitches of the TOMS[1] satellite data have been beaten to death. Please note that a group of brits later used the same raw data that the glitched study did and showed that indeed there was a rapid depletion of the ozone layer. IIRC, the group was associated with the antarctica research team of england.
2. No body said that Ozone depletion takes place only over the stratosphere of Antarctica, not in this list anyway. A slew of studies have shown that in the mid-north latitudes (30 N - 60) there have been significant depletions too. I agree however that the popular term 'ozone hole' has its primary linkages with Antarctica. But, that does not mean that proto_ozone_holes(tm);-) don't exist anywhere else. 3. Ofcourse the accentuation (not the appearance, which please note) of the 'hole' is seasonal - but the rate of increase of the hole scope and the related ramifications are what a cause for alarmbells, IMO. 4. If one does some digging around with the concepts of polar stratospheric clouds, active chlorine and polar (antarctic) vortices - and understands them, the 'ozone hole in the south' where as 'most CFC emissions are in the Northern Hemisphere' kind of apparent incongruities would disappear, IMO. 5. I dont understand how/what 'continuously emit chlorine compounds' translates to in terms of tonnage, but I understand that the Erebus volcano does not operate 'continuously!' 6. I note with a wry grin that a blog says "Mt. Erebus, a volcano located 6 miles from McMurdo base, dumps up to 1000 tons of chlorine a day into the polar atmosphere." I wonder where this gentleman got his data from! The url [2] is given for your amusement and edification. Probably you are referring to these kinds of claims. I am reminded of that cute quote by Mark Twain - 'First get the facts straight,then you are free to distort them at your leisure.' :-) [1] http://jwocky.gsfc.nasa.gov/ [2] http://sproteus.blogspot.com/2002_04_01_sproteus_archive.html Thanks and regards: __ramjee. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ramjee Swaminathan http://www.qsl.net/vu2sro/ Mandatory quote:" Prudens questio dimindium scientia." =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ----- Original Message ----- From: F. Marc de Piolenc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Biofuel List <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 12:13 PM Subject: [biofuel] Global Warming fertilizer > "And I'm sure that you'll also notice that the compilers at this > site don't refute ozone depletion as the myth that you would > suggest or have others believe." > > I did notice that they hew to the Party Line - which is still tenable if > you are only aware of errors in reduction of the SATELLITE data. Once it > is clear that the surface survey data were also incorrectly processed it > becomes untenable. But let's be charitable and say they are not aware > of those facts. > > And let's also ignore the fact that there are other, much stronger > arguments against any connection between the Ozone Hole and CFC's, > namely: > > ~most CFC emissions are in the Northern Hemisphere - which depending on > whom you read has either no ozone hole or a slight "dimple" - while the > big (though still only seasonal) ozone hole is in the south > > ~no site that I have yet found even mentions the active Antarctic > volcanoes Erebus and Terror, which continuously emit chlorine compounds > in hot plumes that convect them to high altitudes. > > Marc > -- > Remember September 11, 2001 but don't forget July 4, 1776 > > They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary > safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Free $5 Love Reading Risk Free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/3PCXaC/PfREAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
