Do you have contact details for the Polish equipment supplier and do 
you know what their output is per hour? 

Dave

--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Jan,
> 
> Sorry for the late reply.  Did not see your question at the bottom 
before.
> Since we produce biodiesel from different "oil" sources, these 
differences
> could give different properties.  Like coconut has better wintering
> properties.  Our vegetable oil here is mainly from coconut so thats 
it.  If
> we(all of us) produce biodiesel to an economical quantity(maybe 
more than
> what you can sell or use) then we can trade it like a commodity 
where it is
> needed.  Just a though.
> 
> Ken C.
> 
> At 07:32 PM 6/5/01 +0200, you wrote:
> >Hi to all,
> >
> >Question to Dick Carlstein:
> >
> >You deliver two plants for 800 litres of BD per day, do you ?
> >
> >1)   What are the initial costs per plant ?
> >     I have here the offer from Polish producer (for rapeseed oil
> esterification) for the batch                 
> >     400litres/day at say US $ 11,000 (eleven thousand dollars).
> >
> >2)   What are the running costs:
> >     - sunflower oil  (Poland rapeseed oil is about US $ 
700/tonne - derived
> from the prices of            
> >     rapeseed)
> >     - methanol ??? (or ethanol), Poland:  791 $/tonne (0,76 
kg/liter is the
> density of methanol,          
> >     ethanol: 4cents/liter)
> >     -  KOH ??? (Poland  19-to 21 $/25 kg )
> >     - electricity ??? (Poland 5cents/kWhr)
> >
> >3.   What are the revenue sources and their prices?
> >     - biodiesel   (Poland - nobody knows yet,  Petrol diesel cost 
US $
> 440/tonne is the wholesale    
> >     price),
> >     - glycerine ???? (Poland - I do not know yet
> >     - leftovers from rapeseed sold to farmers as fodder  ??? do 
not know yet
> >       (applies only when the BD producers gets rapeseed as the 
raw material)
> >
> >One very important remark:  One can buy rapeseed and other oils at 
the
> agrarian stock exchange 
> >in Rotterdam for example.
> >Prices are (more or less)
> >rapeseed oil 400 to 430 Euro/tonne  (three months delivery)
> >coconut oil  355 Euro/tonne
> >sunflower oil :  ????
> >
> >Other remark:
> >
> >>From my rough analysis  (I am doing it for my to-be installation) 
it goes
> that the most important 
> >factor for BD production to be profitable is  ( I want to sell it 
for
> profit) :
> >
> >the cost of getting oil  whatever it is  (sunflower, rapeseed or 
coconut
> etc.)
> >
> >In case of my country this price or cost of oil should not exceed 
US$
> 400/tonne.
> >
> >Any comments ????
> >
> >Last question to Ken:
> >
> >What do you mean by economic quantity of biodiesel ???
> >
> >
> >jan sur—wka
> >to-be producer and seller of rapeseed derived biodiesel
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