I have the same car with some mods - it's stick and gets 46 or so on the hwy with dino and 42-43 w/ BD. It runs better on BD but the mileage does drop off.

Jason Schick wrote:

I have a 2002 VW Jetta TDI which I have been running on Soy Biodiesel for
6000 miles.  It is an automatic so my mileage hasn't been as good as the
manual.  I used to get 38 mpg with dino but I only get 32 with the bio.
Does anyone have a comparison.
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I have a hot-rodded TDI running on BD and it screams! I am looking at a better clutch because it puts out so much torque. I got rid of my V8 Mustang and am glad I did. This thing is a blast, and still gets great mileage w/ almost no nasty tailpipe emissions.


Joe McCarthy wrote:

I'm driving a non turbo 1.9l diesel golf and I'm getting 47-50mpg. At only 65bhp it's not much fun to drive. However with Diesel costing (equivalent) $4.76 per US gallon in the republic of Ireland, it's more of a necessity.


On 9 Aug 2005, at 12:23, Mike Weaver wrote:

Not in a Hummer-sized or Expedition-sized vehicle you won't! I counted over 30 that don't even get 20 mpg on EPA's website.
I have a VW Golf and get at least 43-46.
The US doesn't sell small diesels, except the Jeep, but it's so heavy it still get no mileage. Isuzu was was the last carmaker to build a decent midsize SUV w/ a diesel - it got 30-35 or so but that was years ago.

The US needs (and will) get over its fascination w/ giant cars.


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Hello;

You will get far more than 22mpg with diesel.
Unless of course you are looking for very large capacity engine (like 6
litres) which and average city user does not need.

Over here (outside of USA) you can buy 2.5 to 3.5 litre diesel engined
SUV's and Vans.
You will get at least 25mpg.  And these are 4x4 heavy duty machines.

Or you can get small capacity diesel cars (example 1.6 litre Hyundai Getz)
and you get something
like 40 miles to a gallon easily. These are real life values including city
traffic (not test values).

I have looked at the article, it mentiones that in US the refineries do not
have the capacity for the diesel production.
Well hey maybe this is a great opportunity for bio-diesel.... Start using
the vegetable oil or even better
waste vegetable oil. You will save the environment, create jobs for local
farmers and pollute far less.
I would estimate that for a bio-diesel plant it will take maximum 6 months
from scratch to be operational.
And you can use the local farmers produce or local restaurants WVO (and save
the pollution).
Even better if you have the talent like many in this list you can make it at
home, and save a bundle...

Article also mentions that diesel prices are soaring. Yes this is true. I
can tell you that this is a great
tax revenue for all of the government. I can tell you that over here there
are less taxes on biodiesel.
The government actually supports the BD production. Therefore the BD sells
for less than normal diesel.
To save more please refer to the last sentence of the previous paragraph.

There is one more issue about commercial transportation. We need to build
more railroads.  Trucking everything
wil not be feasible. Again in Turkiye I believe we have the largest truck
population in Europe.  But at the end of the
day no matter how many roads you build they are always congested and the
accident rates are difficult to control.
For commercial transportation you need to build railroads and develop the
seaways.

So there is a solution for all of the claims this article makes. It all
comes down to the personal choice of each individual.
Do we want to solve problems?  Or do we prefer to enjoy the luxury of
"wasting energy"?  I gues our kids will be the one
to appreciate our efforts or put the blame on us.

regards

Burak
Istanbul, Turkiye

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I read that.  Diesel will only help if combined w/ high mileage cars,
hybrid and bio.  To go to diesel so Americans can get 22 mpg in their
SUVs is pretty silly.

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Click here: Diesel Won't Solve Our Gasoline Woes



<http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/07/ AR200508070
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FYI.  No mention of biodiesel to augment supplies.

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