Me too.

Not to mention, has it every really worked out the way we thought it would?

Tom Irwin wrote:

Greeting Earl,
I'd love to see the U.S. stop meddling in other countries. Any chance you can get them to stop sending their 700 military advisors to the border of Peru and Bolivia with plans to ship a proposed division? While you are at it can you get the governemnet to stop wasting your tax money supporting American agribusinesses. Then perhaps the rest of the third world will be able to begin to fend for itself. Just a thought or two, Tom Irwin
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    Dale,

    I don't mean to deflate your dream, but why do we need the government
    beauracracy (of which the UN most certainly is) to guarranty these
    basic
    human rights? Shouldn't that be the responsibility of every person
    on the
    planet to protect his or her basic rights?

    It seems to me that be requiring wealthy nations to "donate" any
    portion of
    their GDP is just another form of socialism, except on a global scale.

    Your other point about not getting involved with those poorer
    nations is
    right on the money. The biggest terrorism problems in the US today
    are a
    direct result of our meddling in other nations' affairs. If we
    spent less
    time and money on controlling other countries, we could spend less
    time and
    money on counter terrorism measures. Maybe then my taxes will go
    down and I
    would be able to donate my own money to those poorer nations. But
    that, my
    friend, is truly just a dream.

    Regards,

    Earl Kinsley
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    From: Dale Seto
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    Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 10:10 AM
    Subject: Re: [Biofuel] The New Blue States/Country


    This is a very wise and informed comment that Keith made, and I
    totally
    agree. I hope someday that the UN will ingrain and apply four
    basic rights
    for every human on this planet, and they are;
    1) access to food
    2) access to clean water
    3) access to shelter
    4) personal security

    I also beleive that all wealthy countries be required to donate
    just 2% of
    their GDP to a fund to help accomplish this. Just think of all the
    extra
    money we are spending on counter terrorism that could be put
    towards this
    goal. It would also thwart terrorism because terrorists would not
    be able
    to get a foothold or seek refige in the countries that our
    goodwill has
    touched. But our help must be unconditional. We must not get
    involved, or
    tell their country how to run it. All we would ask is that they be
    peaceful
    and abide international law. I know that this is just pie in the
    sky and
    whishfull thinking, but its just a dream of mine.


    Best wishes, Dale


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