All, Sorry, I really did not mean that Hakan was whining, and I don't think he took it that way. We've enjoyed an ongoing, very friendly off-list conversation for at least a month. I don't think Hakan would disagree with me when I say we are pretty much the same wavelength with regards to our illustrious leader.
The point was that you can't bank on anything Bush says, and that I believe that anything that doesn't fit his warped worldview is just so much noise, or whining. Any way you slice it, Iraq is a disaster, and didn't have to be. -Mike >>Hopefully we can keep this discussion civilized, Mike, but I wouldn't >>consider Hakan to be "whining". > > In the interests of keeping it civilised, I must say I enjoyed Mike's > message, he does a good line in industrial-strength irony. I hope > Hakan enjoyed it too. > > For the rest, John, of course I agree with you, can't be said often > enough, IMHO. > > Best wishes > > Keith > > >>Human nature often takes the stance "what is good for me is fair. What >>is not good for me is not fair". If the Iraqis were over here >>promising to capture Bush, and did so, would you feel the same? >> >>A couple decades ago I used to believe that what happened in the Eastern >>Hemisphere is fine, just keep it over there. And what happened on this >>side is fine, just keep it here. Nobody should impress their own values >>and practices on another. >> >>But these days, everything seems to have global ramifications. Global >>warmning, Peak Oil. So I can see that folks on the eastern side of the >>pond get irritated when the westerners use more than then their "fair" >>share of fossil fuels and pollute the globe more than any others? >>Should be force the rest of the planet to suffer for our glutteny? >> >>My two cents. Have at as you will. >> >>Cheers, >>John >> >> >>On 9/2/2005, "Mike Weaver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >Whine whine. At least he caught Osama Bin Laden, just like he >> promised. >> > >> >Hakan Falk wrote: >> > >> >>Taryn, >> >> >> >>You must admit that he killed many more in Iraq for the money, >> >>he is responsible for those death also, maybe he call that >> >>efficiency instead. More killed for the money. I can guarantee >> >>that the pictures of devastated people that we now see from >> >>Orleans, have been going on for many years in Iraq. So it is >> >>not only Bush fault, he only raised the bar and achieved much >> >>more in shorter time frame. >> >> >> >>When media show the desperation among the Iraqi people, it >> >>is not many who cares, maybe Orleans will create more of >> >>compassion for the country that US occupy. The homes that >> >>are destroyed and people killed in Iraq, are 100's times more >> >>than Orleans. >> >> >> >>Hakan >> >> >> >> >> >>At 08:38 02/09/2005, you wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>>Wow, nice catch Bede, Fits right in with "is there blame?" >> >>> >> >>>I just love to blame stuff on Bush and his cronies. Except...I'm not >> >>>sure that all the kings men could have put Orleans together again. >> >>> >> >>>Certainly, having pissed away the country's emergency resources, Bush >> >>>is responsible for many of the deaths in La and Ms. Kinda like stupid >> >>>kids who empty the fire extinguishers in school. But I think >> Katrina, >> >>>and years of head-in-the-sand development is what drowned Orleans. >> >>> >> >>>taryn >> >>>http://ornae.com/ >> >>> >> >>>On Sep 1, 2005, at 9:16 PM, Bede wrote: >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>>http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article10062.htm >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>How New Orleans Was Lost >> >>>> >> >>>>By Paul Craig Roberts >> >>>> >> >>>>09/01/05 "Antiwar" -- -- Chalk up the city of New Orleans as a cost >> of >> >>>>Bush's Iraq war. > > <snip> > > > _______________________________________________ > Biofuel mailing list > Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 > messages): > http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
