Diesel Smart Car Hybrid Diesel Smart Car Hybrid Diesel Smart Van - with a six speed. Think of a modern Vespa Ape (bee) - a little truck or van - sort of like what the Japanese use. There are also in Latin America.
Heck - I rarely need the size of my Golf, which believe me is considered SMALL in the US. I wish I had taken my ex-father in law's offer of a Mazda diesel p/u 15 years ago... Hakan Falk wrote: >Ooooops! > >I have not had a gasoline car for at least 20 years and my first >diesel 35 years ago. Maybe US can ship the diesel from the coal to >Europe, it looks like they do not need it (cheap of course, to follow >the energy purchasing evaluations they had for a long time). Maybe it >should be said "Saved, except for the carbon and diesel thing". > >Hakan > > >At 01:20 26/04/2006, you wrote: > > >>We used to buy diesel cars in the US, but they were never too popular. >> >>Hakan Falk wrote: >> >> >> >>>LOL! >>> >>>US have huge amounts of coal, one third of known world reserves. Now >>>it is only left to get the Americans to buy diesel vehicles 1% of >>>current autos, to levels like Europes 50% of current vehicles. So >>>instead of dependance of foreign oil, US will be dependent of foreign >>>autos, but it is a large improvement of the situation anyway. Diesel >>>engines 30% more efficient with smaller autos 50% more efficient and >>>US will be at the level of Europeans. By the way, where is the >>>"freedom cars"? On the streets of Europe!!!!! After this, US maybe >>>even discover biodiesel. >>> >>>Hakan >>> >>> >>>At 23:10 25/04/2006, you wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>WE ARE SAVED! WELL EXCEPT FOR THE CARBON THING.......... >>>> >>>><http://www.technologyreview.com/BizTech/wtr_16713,296,p1.html>htt >>>> >>>> >>p://www.technologyreview.com/BizTech/wtr_16713,296,p1.html >> >> >>>>That's sarcasm folks....... >>>> >>>>Joe >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>Mike Weaver wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>Redler, you never like my ideas. You've made me cry. Now how do you >>>>>feel? *snif* >>>>> >>>>>Ok I can't leave well enough alone. A good friend who follows peak oil >>>>>pretty closely sent me this. I think it's optimistic at best and pretty >>>>>delusional at worst. How long will it take (and cost) to get all this >>>>>whiz bang stuff going? There's no doubt in my mind the petro economy >>>>>is doomed. Now, if we had any sense we'd wean ourselves NOW, while we >>>>>can, use whatever technology may work to do it and move to the next >>>>>phase. Even in the best case scenario the price of oil is going to >>>>>continue to climb and climb. >>>>> >>>>>They also make the sweeping statement that "the World is not about to >>>>>run out of oil". The world WILL NEVER run out of oil. There just WON'T >>>>>BE ENOUGH for everyone to go as we are. I'm sure there will alwasy be a >>>>>trickle ot two... >>>>> >>>>>Weaver >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Michael Redler wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Schizophrenic/Procrastinating/Clueless economists: >>>>>> >>>>>>They concede to: >>>>>> >>>>>>The rising costs of oil exploration >>>>>>The eminent peak and subsequent end to oil as a main source of fuel >>>>>>The fact that for every three barrels used there is only one barrel of >>>>>>newly discovered oil to replenish it. >>>>>> >>>>>>At the same time they seem to feel that new technology and techniques >>>>>>in exploration and the resulting increase in yield allows you to delay >>>>>>the peak. >>>>>> >>>>>>They also make the sweeping statement that "the World is not about to >>>>>>run out of oil". >>>>>> >>>>>>What does "about" mean and when will they have the foresight to see >>>>>>the value of doing something sooner rather than later? More >>>>>>importantly, who is "the World" and when are they going to count >>>>>>countries (i.e. Iraq) who are slowly losing control of their oil. >>>>>> >>>>>>What a bunch of crap! >>>>>> >>>>>>Weaver!! You couldn't leave well enough alone, could you. >>>>>> >>>>>>Mike >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>*/Mike Weaver <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/* wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>><http://www.economist.com/finance/displaystory.cfm?story_id=6823 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>506>http://www.economist.com/finance/displaystory.cfm?story_id=6823506 >> >> >>>>>>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>> >>>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>>Biofuel mailing list >>>>>><mailto:Biofuel@sustainablelists.org>Biofuel@sustainablelists.org >>>>>>http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org >>>>>> >>>>>>Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >>>>>><http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html>http://journeytoforeve >>>>>> >>>>>> >>r.org/biofuel.html >> >> >>>>>>Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 >>>>>>messages): >>>>>><http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/>http: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>//www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ >> >> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>Biofuel mailing list >>>>><mailto:Biofuel@sustainablelists.org>Biofuel@sustainablelists.org >>>>>http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org >>>>> >>>>>Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >>>>><http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html>http://journeytoforever >>>>> >>>>> >>.org/biofuel.html >> >> >>>>>Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives >>>>> >>>>> >>(50,000 messages): >> >> >>>>><http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/>http:/ >>>>> >>>>> >>/www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ >> >> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>Biofuel mailing list >>>>Biofuel@sustainablelists.org >>>>http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org >>>> >>>>Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >>>>http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html >>>> >>>>Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives >>>> >>>> >>(50,000 messages): >> >> >>>>http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Biofuel mailing list >>>Biofuel@sustainablelists.org >>>http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org >>> >>>Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >>>http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html >>> >>>Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 >>> >>> >>messages): >> >> >>>http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>_______________________________________________ >>Biofuel mailing list >>Biofuel@sustainablelists.org >>http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org >> >>Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >>http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html >> >>Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): >>http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ >> >> > > > >_______________________________________________ >Biofuel mailing list >Biofuel@sustainablelists.org >http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > >Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > >Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): >http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > > > _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
