Yes but the electrical energy is converted to heat with practically 100% eff regardless of it's source of generation which is what I meant.  You are right of course, electrical generation is not without it's environmental impact, even hydro.  But what of your emissions from burning??

J

Hakan Falk wrote:
Joe,

Electricity more efficient for heating? A lot of the electricity 
production is using oil, with around 35% efficiency to make the 
electricity. Heating with oil have 70 to 85% efficiency in burners. I 
would not give anything for this manual, the author lacks knowledge 
and understanding. A pity that it is a women who wrote it, because 
now I am going to be accused of being a male chauvinist. It does 
however not effect the fact that it is much more efficient to heat 
with oil, than with electricity.

Hakan

At 15:16 27/04/2006, you wrote:
  
Getting it really cold means removing heat.  Whether you remove heat 
or add heat it takes time and energy.  Adding heat would be a more 
efficient process unless you live in the arctic and can let good old 
mother nature do the work for you.  BTW someone recently passed me a 
manual written by a woman who shall remain nameless that is for sale 
about making biodiesel.  It says that heating oil for dewatering is 
a very inefficient process.  An electrical resistance heater is as 
close to 100 percent efficient as anything I can imagine.  Just be 
careful about heat density.  Too much power confined to too small an 
area will degrade the oil at the heater surface.  Better to use 
several low density heaters to speed things up.

Joe

Jason & Katie wrote:
    
what about applejack style dewatering? get it REALLY cold so the oil
solidifies, or the water freezes, whichever comes first and screen it out?
thats how the old folks  used to make apple whiskey for hard cider when my
grandma was a kid.
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Subject: [Biofuel] WVO-Water Separation: coalescer media



      
 I'm trying to think of alternate ways to reduce/eliminate water in WVO
that are both easy (i.e. passive) and don't involve the energy use of
heating a bulk volume of oil to near water BP.

  Coalescing media comes to mind, has anybody every looked into this
further or heard of its use in biodiesel production?  All I see on JtF is
variations on heating and settling.

 If you aren't familiar with coalescer media, it works because as the
oil-water mix is passed though the media, the small suspended drops of
water
tend to group together into larger and larger drops of free water that
will
then separate by gravity on the downstream side of the media.

 An example video can be seen at
<http://www.kaydonfiltration.com/tech_video.htm>http://www.kaydonfiltration.com/tech_video.htm

  Not sure on cost of the bulk media yet.

     Thanks,

        Ryan Pope

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