Very funny Tom! Designer exhausts! You should patent that idea. Recently I was wondering if I could make biofuel out of citrus oil and go off smelling like an orage blossom. LOL.
But seriously ( actually I am seriously curious about citrus oil) now when it comes to the pour point some of these aromatic oils may make a low temperature fuel. ?? I have been talking to a farmer who runs an organic dairy farm and he is growing a crop of winter rape this fall. He claims you can mix the SVO with winter diesel and don't need to trans esterify. I am skeptical of course. I have very little info on the winter canola. Do you or does anyone on the list have experience with it? Joe Thomas Kelly wrote: > Luke, > "So chicken fat it is." Maybe. > > Did you use bottom heat? as in a pot on the stove? > If so, did it crackle a bit? Any water on the bottom? > If you used a submersible heater, did bubbles form around the heating > element? > > The white stuff , "about 5%", might be water. > > I use 100% BD in my car until night temps get down around freezing (32F > /~2C). I then go to a 70% BD : 30% winterized petro diesel blend. 32F is a > good deal below the cloud point of my BD. (You can check your BD by putting > it in the fridge, check occassionally, read temp when it starts to cloud.) I > drive an '82 Mercedes 300SD. I think it would pump jello. > Last year I "winterized" my BD as described at JTF. > This year I have separated WVO with the lowest cloud point from WVO that > clouds at high temps. When the temps go down, the stuff that clouds easily > becomes heating fuel for my house ... tank in basement, the other stuff > becomes BD for my car ... outside in the cold. > I actually like BD made from the WVO w. chicken fat. The car exhaust > smells more like a barbeque than like french fries. My next 20 gal (76L) > batch will have about 5 gal of bacon grease .... solid, had to melt it. > It'll go in the car. I sometimes go fishing w a friend early in the morning. > He has requested bacon and egg exhaust. Maybe this next batch will fit the > bill. > Good luck w the WVO > By the way, what do you get for a titration on it? > > Tom > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "WM LUKE MATHISEN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <biofuel@sustainablelists.org> > Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 5:43 PM > Subject: Re: [Biofuel] WVO > > > >>Tom, >> >>I heated to 170f as you suggested. It became transluent and then >>congelled >>again, this time in three layers, a bottom layer (about 5%) that looks >>like >>black solids, then a layer of something white (also about 5%) and the rest >>brown goo. But it looks like no water. So chicken fat it is. Any point >>in >>processing it seperately? Except to save the good stuff for winter use? >>At >>what outside temp do I need to be conserned about BD 100 gelling? >> >>Oh, and any idea what the white layer is? >> >>Thanks for your help. >>:-) >>Luke >> >> >> >>>From: "Thomas Kelly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org >>>To: <biofuel@sustainablelists.org> >>>Subject: Re: [Biofuel] WVO >>>Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 16:50:56 -0400 >>> >>>Luke, >>> If your WVO was used to cook meat such as chicken, you will have >>>some >>>animal fat which may be causing the middle layer. It will still make >>>excellent warm weather fuel. >>> >>> Of course, it might be water. >>> >>> Heat a small sample to get the water to drop out. Take some of the >>>dried >>>WVO and let it cool. If it remains clear, you had water. If it clouds upon >>>cooling it probably contains animal fat. >>> Tom >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: "WM LUKE MATHISEN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>To: <biofuel@sustainablelists.org> >>>Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 7:56 AM >>>Subject: [Biofuel] WVO >>> >>> >>> >>>>The waste veg oil (wvo)I collect has three different layers after it >>>>settles. A clear (translucent) layer on top and a brown >>>>non-translucent >>>>layer - that doesn't want to filter - in the middle and then black >>> >>>solids >>> >>>>on >>>>the bottom. My question is the middle brown layer. It seems - and I >>>>havent >>>>run enough batches to be sure - that the middle layer has water in it. >>> >>>Is >>> >>>>it worth the energy - propane - to process it when you have to boil off >>>>the >>>>water? >>>> >>>>:-) >>>>Luke >>>> >>>>_________________________________________________________________ >>>>Don't just search. Find. 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