[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Uh-huh Allan > > community, which is a hotbed of the Clarkian view. This past July I > went to the Robert A. Heinlein Centennial,
YOu were at the Heinlein Centennial? Man, wish I'd have known! I'd have gone in that case. Friend of mine was present. At some of the bofs, he threw his mp3 recorder up on the table, and (with permissions from those present) recorded the conversations and sent them to me, So I could peruse them on my hideous commutes. Yes, as you say, amazing densities of phds present. It was a very frustrating experience for me. because the stereo imaging of his machine is quite good, and the quality of the recordings was excellent. With 8 or so folks talking around the table it was like being there, but not being able to participate. Interesting stuff, I learned a lot. But as I couldn't interject, it was staggeringly frustrating as quite a bit of what I heard was based in assumptions and hypothesis that were absolutely and completely wrong and wrong headed. > Currently the future of man and space isn't exploration, it's exploitation > and militarisation, and there's probably not much chance that will change > any time soon. This is quite true, and it's quite sad. > and published it too. There's more to it than the clarke-ian view, that's > just the same tired old 1950s suburban Reader's Digest and can-do Popular > Science mag utopianism still staggering about like the Undead in a new > host body. Hey, I *like* the 50s PSM utopianism ! I'm still angry we've dropped those overly simplistic models from consideration. A lot of them made a lot of sense. I grew up on that stuff, and still want it. Or at least, I'd like to see it so I could be against it :) _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/