Steve, Bit of a worry that gas in the air supply. How would you shut down the air supply? Friend says he once worked on a diesel engine that had a butterfly valve in the inlet (thinks it was a stationary engine), perhaps that was what the valve was for? Any thoughts on why it would be fitted otherwise? Paul
----- Original Message ----- From: "steve spence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 10:39 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Why you should fit a MIL > Unless you have the ability to shutdown the air supply, diesels have been > known to race uncontrollably: A) if crankcase oil gets suctioned in b) if > there is a flammable gas in the air (saw this near a lp filling station) > > usual result is many small parts over large area :-) > > > Steve Spence > Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: > http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm > > Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.com > Palm Pilot Pages - http://www.webconx.com/palm > X10 Home Automation - http://www.webconx.com/x10 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > (212) 894-3704 x3154 - voicemail/fax > We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, > we borrow it from our children. > -- > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul Gobert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2001 8:37 PM > Subject: Re: [biofuel] Why you should fit a MIL > > > > David, > > Thanks for the info, and for being so frank. You don't seem to have much > > faith in my old Toyota. > > The smoke it blows is black not blue and very little oil is used between > > changes,not enough to justify adding oil. > > It has always been a smokey engine despite attention to injectors etc. The > > ammount of smoke varies with engine load. Keeping the revs between 2,500 > > and 4,000 and using a small "throttle opening" minumises it. Adjusting the > > smoke screw only reduces the already inadequate performance. After 350,000 > > km the rings are most probably worn as indicated by the vehicles tendency > to > > creep forwards when parked on a slope and restrained only by engine > braking, > > low-range first. > > The following may sound like an add but should be familiar. > > The Hilux is the most reliable,economical ,practicle vehicle I have ever > > owned. (Lets not mention lack of comfort or character). Running costs so > far > > (fuel, oil,grease,servicing,parts, repairs,tyres,registration,insurance > etc) > > 11.9c/km. Fuel consumption 10L/100km. Last set of front tyres lasted > > 81,000km,rears still going. Brakes relined 259,000 and 440,000. > > Exhaust system replaced 259,000 and currently in good condition. > > Clutch,gearbox,transfere case, front & rear diffs all origional. Used > > daily, often carries load, current odometer reading 540,000km. End of ad. > > and no I wouldn't sell it for quids. > > Lets consider the operation of 4 stroke diesel engines. > > unlike their petrol equivalent, diesels have no variable restriction in > the > > inlet tract (butterfly in carb or air inlet for fuel injection). Oil > burning > > in the petrol 4 stroke is usually associated with worn rings/bore or > > faulty/worn valve guides or valve stem seals. It is most obvious when the > > air pressure inside the cylinder is substantially less than that in the > > sump. Such conditions occur when the throttle is suddenly closed at high > rpm > > or after prolonged idling. The diesel takes a full gulp of air at each > > intake stroke regardless of "throttle setting" so the difference in > pressure > > between cylinder and sump at induction is not so great especially with > > positive crankcase ventilation. > > The increased pressure and temperature of the diesel engine combustion > would > > probably burn the lubricating oil more effectively producing black smoke > > from an enriched mixture. > > Ring blowby also feeds oil fumes to the intake. The original engine in the > > Hilux was treated to some spray start (ether) by an unsympathetic > unknowing > > moron ( me) when it refused to start one winter. (Glow plugs coated with > > soot don't warm the preignition chambers too well). End result broken > > rings. 50,000 km later things started to get interesting. The engine began > > to run on the crankcase fumes. Usually this would occur as the "throttle" > > was backed off just as a hill was crested. The engine would suddenly roar > > and rattle whilst belching black smoke from the exhaust. Very > disconcerting > > for those following. Not only would the engine run on the fumes but it > would > > accelerate. ( can't understand why when the ignition was occuring well > > before injection point).The only way to calm it down was to apply the > brakes > > firmly until normal running resumed, don't know the theory behind this. > > Braking was also disconcerting for those following. The only time I have > > ever witnessed this in another vehicle was when a Diamond Rio was > delivering > > a load of coal to the factory where I worked. This was a spectacular sight > > and sound punctuated by the driver and his helper abandoning ship. > > > > Regards, > > Paul. > > > > > > Yahoo! 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