On Mon, 29 Apr 2024 at 08:02, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging <tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > Apr 28, 2024, 22:50 by fernando.treb...@gmail.com: > > 3. If they are hamlets, shouldn't the main routes connecting them be > mapped as highway=tertiary, based on the definitions in the wiki? [1] > [1] https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/10078630 > > why you think that place=hamlet are automatically entitled to > highway=tertiary?
The wiki emphasizes the highway classification should consider the relative importance of roads within regional contexts even for the lowest highway classes: "Outside urban areas, tertiary roads are those with low to moderate traffic which link smaller settlements such as villages or hamlets." "For quieter linking roads, consider using highway=unclassified instead" (quietER, relative, not quiet, absolute) https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dtertiary "The distinction between unclassified and tertiary often causes confusion: in general, always consider the road's relative importance in the region's road network and tag appropriately." https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dunclassified The wiki also lists highway classes by importance, from top to bottom within a country, leading to the spread of highway classes according to local conditions. So, in Antarctica, a neutral mapper (not projecting country-specific customs or personal preferences) following this guidance would tend to raise highway classification. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway#Highway I agree with you that it would be a stretch to interpret this as assigning highway=trunk to the only way between the only two houses on an isolated island. But there are many intermediate cases in the world between this extreme and the other extreme (a large, populated island country with many villages and connecting roads) and no clear guidance on when to start increasing highway classification. And finally, the many examples I found near the Arctic seem to constitute a tacit precedent for such regional relativizations that represent mappers' preferences and practices in regions similar to the Antarctic region. If we are truly concerned about coherence, then this should be taken into account. The reasons why these mappers chose this mapping style are probably linked to the practical uses of the map (typically rendering and routing). If the map isn't good enough for the users, they won't use it. > (have I missed intended link? or are there multiple [1] anchors?) My mistake. The first link numbered "[1]" was supposed to be a link to https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dtertiary which I forgot to include. > Why you link this relation as related? This road serves mines, not > only research stations/hamlets. My mistake in numbering the links was really confusing, sorry about that. I wanted to highlight that, although the activity is different, the physical characteristics, length and regional relevance of the road are similar to those of the South Pole Traverse. -- Fernando Trebien _______________________________________________ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
