Forgive me if this has already been asked, and I believe Ewen may have been alluding to this.
How is address going to be 'placed' onto the map, I assume a node? My primary question is where is the node going to be placed? Will it be placed in the centre of the property/parcel? If so, they will be fine in denser areas but how effective will they be in rural areas, will they need to be moved to near the driveway/gate manually? or is this a non-issue? In the case of a subdivision where there is common property, will the common property receive its own address, as on VicPlan it shows a separate address for both the common property and the units? (see example) Thanks, Ben. [image: image.png] (37.88839°S, 145.26755°E) On Wed, 9 Jun 2021 at 16:31, Phil Wyatt <p...@wyatt-family.com> wrote: > Go for it Andrew, > > > > I am all for better data, so even small steps are better than missing data. > > > > Re Data consumers - I tend to work with volunteer groups that often have a > low level of GIS knowledge so 'complete exports' of data will always be > best for them. It gets them started on mapping projects (QGIS) and also > gets them into OpenStreetMap! > > > > Cheers - Phil > > > > > > *From:* Ewen Hill <ewen.h...@gmail.com> > *Sent:* Tuesday, 8 June 2021 7:34 PM > *To:* o...@97k.com > *Cc:* OpenStreetMap <talk-au@openstreetmap.org> > *Subject:* Re: [talk-au] Victorian Vicmap Address Import Proposal > > > > Andrew, > > Thank you for both your initial work and the communication as well as > the listening. Can I congratulate you on the lib/toOSM.js for the > capitalisation and duplication processing. Very detailed > > > > A few numpty questions after being late to the party... > > - Is there a node id on the vicmap address and are we storing this in > OSM so we can match and look for missing or deleted ones later? > - Can we provide a couple of samples of > the existingAddressesWithNewTagsOnly export once available > - Could we perform some sampling of suburbs/levels. Perhaps > > > - Mallacoota (large reserves, complex islands and altered crown/public > land ownership) > - Meringur or Learmouth (large farming community) > - Fitzroy (complex inner city) > > > - I can't see what happens on collision with a totally incorrect > address. Is the new node just added where you can't find a matching > address. > > > - Is there an exceptions file for the above that can be reviewed. > Could map roulette some of these? > > > - How have you gone with best practices globally? > > I am amazed by the amount of code you have developed and documented to do > this. The benefits of adding this import will far outweigh any minor local > issues. Chapeau! > > > > Ewen > > > > > > > > On Tue, 8 Jun 2021 at 16:19, cleary <o...@97k.com> wrote: > > Thanks Andrew. A considered and thoughtful response. I support your > proposed actions. Your work for OSM is always very good and much > appreciated. > > > > On Tue, 8 Jun 2021, at 2:59 PM, Andrew Harvey via Talk-au wrote: > > To sum up the contentious issue of suburb, postcode, state tags, > > > > - Phil, Daniel and Seb would prefer the suburb and postcode on each > > address object. > > - Andrew Davidson and cleary would prefer we not include suburb and > > postcode on each address object and instead require data consumers to > > derive this data from the existing boundaries, and actively discourage > > mappers manually adding this data via removing the preset in ID. > > > > Thinking further I'd support including the full address details on each > > address object, to provide a complete address, even if duplicated by > > the boundary. QA tools could be built to validate these match the admin > > boundaries and it becomes a maintenance task to maintain these tags, > > but I think that's okay. > > > > However, to avoid stalling this import on this issue (it doesn't sound > > like anyone will change their mind soon), I'll plan the minimum viable > > option of excluding addr:suburb, addr:postcode and addr:state from the > > import. > > > > There's nothing stopping a further discussion of a planned automated > > edit to update address objects with suburb, postcode and state if the > > community changes their mind later on. > > > > I'll make these changes to the import code, then once I've completed > > all the documentation and remaining issues hopefully post some import > > candidate files if anyone would like to review. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Talk-au mailing list > > Talk-au@openstreetmap.org > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au > > > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-au mailing list > Talk-au@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au > > > > > -- > > Warm Regards > > Ewen Hill > _______________________________________________ > Talk-au mailing list > Talk-au@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au >
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