On Mon, 2016-08-29 at 23:47 -0400, Gordon Dewis wrote:
> 
> > On Aug 29, 2016, at 11:12 PM, Antoine Beaupré 
> > org> wrote:
> > 
> > On 2016-08-25 10:13:25, Gordon Dewis wrote:
> > > Alan is right. I've brought in a few tiles worth of forests from
> > > Canvec in
> > > the area you're talking about, but they were non-trivial to deal
> > > with
> > > compared to most other features. I kept running into limits in
> > > the tools I
> > > was using at the time and I haven't returned to them since.
> > Yeah, that's what I figured.... I hope my comment didn't come
> > across as
> > criticizing the work that was done importing that data into OSM - I
> > know
> > how challenging and frustrating that work can be.
> > 
> > But I must admit it seems a little rough to have those patches up
> > there. I don't mind the "seams" between the CANVEC imported blocks,
> > which don't seem to show up on the main map anymore anyways. But
> > the *missing* blocks are really problematic and confusing. And they
> > show
> > up not only all the way up north and in weird places, but in
> > critical
> > areas. for example, here's a blank spot right north of Canada's
> > capital:
> > 
> > http://osm.org/go/cIhYCSU-?m=
> > 
> > It seems a whole area was just not imported up there... oops! This
> > shows
> > up here and there in seemingly random places.
> Whoever was working on it was probably struggling with the tiles and
> subtitles in Canvec and threw in the towel. I was working on the
> forests around Golden Lake, for example, and ran into problems and
> limitations with the tools I was using at the time. I would love to
> import more, but it’s a daunting task.
> 
> Another problem I noticed is when trying to merge “new” forests with
> existing forests was the existing forests would disappear because the
> topology changed, similar to problems you can see with lakes and
> islands. That alone was enough to make me back off and undo the
> inadvertent damage.
> 
> > I wonder if it wouldn't be better to remove parts of the CANVEC
> > import
> > until we can figure out how to better import them in the future,
> > if, of
> > course, we have a documented way of restoring the state of affairs
> > we
> > have now... As was mentionned elsewhere, it seems to me that the
> > data
> > that is there now somewhat makes it more difficult to go forward
> > and
> > hides more important data (like park boundaries).
> Unless the parts of Canvec are going to be replaced with more
> comprehensive coverage, I think that removing the existing forests
> would not be a Good Thing. 
> 
> > I believe it would be more important to map out park boundaries
> > than
> > actual forest limits which, quite unfortunately, change in pretty
> > dramatic ways in Québec, due to massive logging that has been
> > happening
> > for decades.
> Park boundaries are mostly in already, aren’t they? They are fairly
> easy features to import compared to forests.
Tell you what, I do what I can to import the data, and fill in the
gaps.
I stopped importing data about a year ago, my skin just wasn't thick
enough. 

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