I'm totally in agreement with Daniel, especially that it creates a hostile
community

On Aug 30, 2016 6:05 PM, "Pierre Béland" <pierz...@yahoo.fr> wrote:

> +1
>
> J'invite les autres contributeurs canadiens à indiquer leur accord avec le
> message de Daniel. :)
>
> I invite other canadian OSM contributors to express their agreement with
> Daniel message. :)
>
>
> Pierre
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *De :* Begin Daniel <jfd...@hotmail.com>
> *À :* James <james2...@gmail.com>; Adam Martin <s.adam.mar...@gmail.com>
> *Cc :* Talk-CA OpenStreetMap <talk-ca@openstreetmap.org>
> *Envoyé le :* mardi 30 août 2016 17h35
> *Objet :* Re: [Talk-ca] broken forests in eastern Canada
>
> I have contacted the user that is about/has deleted some changesets
> imported from Canvec. I may agree on some of his comments but totally
> disagree on the method he is using to make his point.
>
> I do not know what the DWG will do about this guy but here is the message
> I sent him...
> Bonjour Nakaner, I understand that you wish the data in OSM being
> accurate, well-structured and made according to the rules developed by the
> OSM community. However, I would strongly suggest that you discuss your
> point with the Canadian community before deleting any changesets.
>
> Canvec imports are running for more than 6 years and the structure of the
> data was discussed with the Canadian OSM community, including OSMF members,
> for more than a year. The result is a compromise that used to suit most
> members. The rules you are mentioning in the comments you leave where not
> even written at that time.
>
> Most Canadian importers simply keep doing what they used to do years ago.
> If you consider they should not, have a discussion with the whole Canadian
> community. You will then be able to make your point, make everyone aware of
> these rules and understand your concerns.
>
> You will then be able to build a stronger community, not discourage people
> to contribute because they have made errors...
>
> Daniel
>
> *From:* James [mailto:james2...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 August, 2016 09:18
> *To:* Adam Martin
> *Cc:* Talk-CA OpenStreetMap
> *Subject:* Re: [Talk-ca] broken forests in eastern Canada
>
> He's even going to revert my work:
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/41776742
> I've forwarded this to the DWG, it's getting rediculous.
>
> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 9:14 AM, Adam Martin <s.adam.mar...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> That's a pretty harsh thing to deal with. Imports are difficult and the
> time needed to get them right is not a small investment. To have someone
> review this work is a valuable service, but I don't think just blanket
> reverting due to the violation of one rule is the solution, especially in
> context of the lack of data in some of those areas. The CANVEC stuff will
> do until surveys or satellite data catches up with those areas.
>
> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 10:35 AM, John Marshall <rps...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Andrew, I hear you! I have been trying to add data around unmapped
> Northern Communities around James Bay and Nunavut. But after someone revert
> some of my work I'm stopping:(
>
> John
>
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