I corrected a couple the other day. One labelled place=farm cannot have been a farm for a hundred years or more, just retaining "Farm" in the name. It is in the urban part of Oakham, and is now a family house with a large garden.
In general place=farm & place=isolated_dwelling can be regarded as incorrect mapping more or less anywhere in the UK. I'd just about accept the latter for Bron-yr-Aur ( https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/368956264/history), but in most cases cartographic choices about labelling farmsteads and outlying houses are just that and can safely be left to suitable post-processing steps. In the vast majority of cases (i.e., not Poultry Houses) the most suitable tag is addr;housename. I re-tag when there are a lot in an area I am editing. Jerry On 13 September 2016 at 13:58, Andy Townsend <ajt1...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 13/09/2016 13:29, Dave F wrote: > >> >> There's been an increase (world wide) in the use of place=farm. >> > ... > >> The reason for the increase could be it being displayed in the OSM carto >> rendering >> Just one example: http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4364588497 >> >> I believe many, if not all, are misinterpretations & should be >> landuse=farmyard. >> > > I'd agree with that. > > The wiki http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Farm says "a place named by a >> name of a farm" >> To me, that means a collection of houses not associated with the farm >> being collectively given the name of that farm, so in effect, a hamlet has >> been named, say, Manor Farm. >> >> Is that a common occurrence? I know of no such in my locale. >> > > I can think of a couple of places near me that might qualify at a real > stretch (http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/372460251 is one such) but the > vast majority are names blindly copied from OS OpenData StreetView**, > without any thought being given to whether the place is a "just a farmyard" > or "actually a place" (or even if it is a working farm at all - many are > historical names on OS OpenData, and are now just residential properties). > > Similar examples are "place=locality" and "place=isolated_dwelling" (for a > laugh try searching for those and seeing just how un-isolated some of those > are) - they seem to have gone from the OS OpenData to OSM via the user's > hands, keyboard and mouse without the user's brain being involved in the > process. > > As I'm coming across these when out and about I'm tidying them up* where > there is a more appropriate tagging, but there are an awful lot still to > do. I tend to use the fact that a large number of "place=farm" and > "place=isolated_dwelling" exist as an indicator that somewhere needs > visiting and mapping properly. > > ... and yes, I have tried suggesting to the biggest culprit locally that > "there's no way that that is a valid name", to no avail. > > Cheers, > > Andy > > > * see e.g. http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/53.2689/-0.8386 > > ** many "names" on OS OpenData aren't names at all (for example, search > for "poultry houses" in OSM and you'll get lots of things "named" that). > Where I live the OS has 5 village names for where I live; the correct > number is at most 2. > > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-GB mailing list > Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb >
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