My original solution when I changed the living streets back to normal roads a few months back was to just add extra tags to highlight the features of the scheme: access, traffic calming, surface, maxspeed:practical etc. I have just received a message from contributor 'lakedistrict' who raised the issue back then, supporting the way I tagged the roads.
Andy, this scheme does have its own signs https://designnotes.blog.gov.uk/wp-content/uploads/sites/53/2014/07/Screen-Shot-2014-07-07-at-12.15.04.png but it doesn't seem to be an official designation in the same way as Home Zones/Quiet Lanes so maybe if it needs a specific tag, 'designation' isn't entirely appropriate. Is it better considered a form of traffic calming? How about traffic_calming=shared_space? Michael, thanks for the Poynton example. To me that clearly shows why it shouldn't be a separate category of highway. It looks like two A roads and a tertiary road cease to exist upon entering the town centre. There is a tertiary road similarly affected in Preston Adam On 1 October 2017 at 16:58, Michael Booth <boot...@gmail.com> wrote: > One of the first edits I did in OSM was to change my local high street to > a tertiary road from a living_street. I think I noticed it because it's > rendered different by osm-carto and some routers wouldn't use the road for > directions. > > It's a 20mph two lane road, except with three traffic calming tables (one > of which is a pelican crossing), and some larger pavements after > improvement works reclaimed some parking spaces - so not somewhere like a > "home zone". > > I read about the "shared space" scheme in Poynton, which seemed to be > about narrowing/redesigning the roads to reduce speeds, and allowing > pedestrians to cross almost anyway. However I think it's marked wrongly as > a living_street in OSM: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/19753268/history > - funnily enough also by Pete Owens... > > > On 01/10/2017 14:12, Adam Snape wrote: > > Hi, > > Over the past couple of years Fishergate, the high street in Preston, and > some surrounding streets have been redeveloped and these highways are now > designated as 'shared space' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shared_space > > Following redeveleopment these were mapped as "highway=living_street". > Earlier this year fellow mapper 'lakedistrict' left a note saying that this > seemed incorrect as this wasn't a residential scheme, I agreed and changed > the roads to unclassified highways (+ 1 tertiary), adding traffic calming, > surface and access tags as appropriate. These roads have recently been > changed back to highway-=living_street by another mapper 'Pete Owens' > https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/52072635 > > To move things forward I would like others' opinions about how we should > map such shared space schemes Are we happy to broaden the definition of > living_street to include them or are they better mapped as ordinary streets > with additional tags? Another potential option which I toyed with was > mapping them as highway=pedestrian, adding access tags (bicycles are > permitted, motor vehicle access varies across the area from 24/7 > thoroughfares, to time conditional/destination/psv only access). > > I'll draw lakedistrict and Pete Owens' attentions to this email so that > they can contribute to the discussion. > > Kind regards, > > Adam (ACS1986) > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-GB mailing > listTalk-GB@openstreetmap.orghttps://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb > > > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-GB mailing list > Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb > >
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