Sorry, crossposted with Tony there

On Mon, 11 May 2020 at 11:01, Adam Snape <adam.c.sn...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I can confirm that the parish name data was in the council's original
> disclosure and is contained in the ESRI shapefile I passed to rowmaps. It's
> available under an open licence (OGL v3)
> https://www.rowmaps.com/datasets/LA/prows.zip . I think Barry at rowmaps
> then trimmed some of his data for teh maps that display on his own site so
> that each county follows a common format.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Adam
>
>
> On Mon, 11 May 2020 at 09:08, nathan case <nathanc...@outlook.com> wrote:
>
>> I have a slightly dissenting view (assuming parish means parish name).
>>
>>
>>
>> At least in Lancashire’s case, I think the use of the numerical ID in
>> place of the parish name should be acceptable. The numerical parish ID is
>> what is used on the council’s own PROW map – as well as the open data they
>> released (and thus the easiest to import into OSM). It would be unrealistic
>> to expect mappers to then cross-check the parish ID with a name, especially
>> since that data is not (as far as I’m aware) easily (openly?) available.
>>
>>
>>
>> Of course, if third party sites want to then use lookup tables to convert
>> parish ID into parish name, then that would be perfectly acceptable.
>>
>>
>>
>> The general format (parish ID/name, PROW type, number) I support.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Tony OSM <tonyo...@gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* 10 May 2020 12:29
>> *To:* talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
>> *Subject:* Re: [Talk-GB] Lancashire prow_ref format (Was: Public Rights
>> of Way - legal vs reality)
>>
>>
>>
>> I agree with Adam. In the published path orders fixed to lamposts etc the
>> written description includes parish, type, number. Sometimes in that order
>> sometimes type, number, parish. There is no consistency.
>>
>> Parish, type, number is likely to be understood by every user of OSM and
>> I have used it in communication with Lancs CC who appear to understand it.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> TonyS999
>>
>> On 10/05/2020 12:03, Adam Snape wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>>
>> There was a discussion on this list about this not long ago. I agree with
>> Rob's preference for parish, type, number as it is more idiomatic and
>> reflects how the routes are most commonly actually referred to in
>> communication. As Rob noted, the council doesn't use the numeric references
>> with any consistency even within its own electronic systems (with the
>> format on the online map being at variance with the underlying dataset). I
>> can confirm that neither the definitive maps nor statements for Lancashire
>> use any such references.
>>
>>
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Adam
>>
>>
>>
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