I added a couple of POIs in the wiki: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/PH:Map_Features
Please add more and "wikify" the page ala Map Features On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 9:04 AM, maning sambale<emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com> wrote: > It's very difficult to decide whether we create our own Pinoy tags or > adapt existing ones for two reasons: > > 1. this is an international project we need to maintain the > "commonality" of features so that it is understandable across > countries; > 2. some features are hyper-local, it cannot be assigned to a generic > tag. To take the MMDA pink urinal a bit further, I think it should > be: > > amenity=toilets > sex/gender=male > fee=no > weewee=yes > poopoo=hell no! > operator=Metropolitan Manila Development Authority > > I suggest we add more features we can think of (Rally gave several > index cards on this). Match them with the existing map features page. > For features that doesn't have an actual match, add them to the > Pinoy-POI list >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/PH:Map_Features > > > >> Please add more info. >> >> On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 4:20 AM, Ronny Ager-Wick - Develo >> Ltd.<r...@develo.ltd.uk> wrote: >>> Looking at http://osmdoc.com/en/tag/shop/ I've seen numerous variants of >>> such a generic tag, but "yes" seems to be dominating: >>> shop=yes (213 existing) >>> shop=shop (123 existing) >>> shop=other (54 existing) >>> shop=whatever (15 existing) >>> shop=undefined (14 existing) >>> shop=unknown (13 existing) >>> shop=? (12 existing) >>> shop=FIXME (10 existing) >>> shop=misc (8 existing) >>> shop=y (8 existing) >>> shop= (8 existing) >>> shop=empty (6 existing) -- although this may mean that the shop is vacant? >>> shop=??? (2 existing) >>> shop=Y (2 existing) >>> shop=uknown [sic] (2 existing) >>> shop=* (2 existing) >>> shop=XXX-Fixme: unknown (2 existing) >>> >>> Is there any way to do a global search/replace on tags that are obvious >>> misspellings or that need to be normalized, such as all the above? >>> I also noticed there is shop=betting, shop=bookmaker and shop=gambling. Are >>> anyone tagging those "secret" places where the jueting agents get their >>> numbers? :) >>> >>> Also I've found a couple of interesting ones: >>> for junk shops: shop=junk (5 existing) (there's also shop=second_hand, 5 >>> existing) >>> for vulcanizing shops: shop=tyres (26 existing) >>> for pasalubong shops: shop=gifts (22 existing) or shop=gift (13 existing) >>> for palengke: shop=wet_market (10 existing) >>> for shoe shine/repair people with a fixed space: shop=shoe_repair (6 >>> existing) or shop=shoemaker (5) >>> for LPG stalls: shop=gas (2 existing) >>> for the strawberry stalls along the way to Baguio: shop=fruit (21 existing) >>> for the fish stalls along the way to various coastal towns: shop=fish (46 >>> existing) >>> (the two last ones are a bit less serious, but you can't argue it's not >>> useful to have them there) >>> or what about shop=sex for certain bars you should not venture into? OK that >>> was maybe taking it a bit far, but apparently there are 16 such shops tagged >>> already :) >>> >>> I've also seen semicolon in use, for example shop=sport;bicycle;outdoor >>> Maybe we could use this to add our local flair, which is useful for Pinoys, >>> such as shop=gifts;pasalubong ? >>> Is this a good way, or is it better to generalize as much as possible? >>> How will GPSs deal with that (semi colon separated tags)? >>> >>> I've also seen shop=car;car_repair and shop=car, car_repair, and I believe >>> I've seen tags with | as well earlier. So which one is it, comma, semicolon >>> or pipe? >>> >>> Also, is singular or plural recommended? I've seen both gift an gifts. I'm >>> thinking singular would mke most sense, but I'm not sure. >>> >>> Ronny. >>> >>> George Tujan wrote: >>> >>> can we setup a generic tag for POIs? so that when a contributor has >>> doubt on what tags to use they can just use the generic tag then >>> either update it or let others update it later >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 7:35 PM, Ronny Ager-Wick - Develo >>> Ltd.<r...@develo.ltd.uk> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Very interesting conversation! >>> I often wonder which tag to put on certain POIs and sometimes resort to >>> guessing, which of course is not good. What if we use this discussion as a >>> basis for a wiki page for Pinoy POIs, sort of like a dictionary of >>> amenities, like: >>> MMDA urinals - see toilets >>> Toilets - amenity=toilets; fee=yes/no >>> Newspaper stand - shop=newsagent >>> Cockfighting arena - sport=cockfighting >>> Multipurpose hall - building=yes; amenity=public_building >>> etc. >>> I would include the generic world wide ones as well, so we can use this as a >>> guideline for how to tag stuff when in doubt. >>> >>> Or is there already such a page? >>> Ronny. >>> >>> ian lopez wrote: >>> >>> For pay toilets, amenity=toilets; fee=yes, while shop=newsagent is for >>> newspaper stands (I think). for DVD shops, I think that there is no tag for >>> it. The big G has "Quiapo DVD" (somewhat prominent when you look at it), but >>> I think that we can't tag it since it is somewhat illegal. Basketball courts >>> are easy, use sport=basketball. AFAIK, multipurpose buildings should be >>> building=yes, amenity=public_building. In some places, I tag cockfighting >>> arenas as sport=cockfighting, though a good number of people outside the >>> Philippines do not consider sabong as a sport (and illegal in some places). >>> Yellow Cab is a "pizza place", most likely to be tagged as >>> amenity=restaurant. >>> >>> Regarding MMDA's urinals, it should be amenity=toilets, fee=no (from what I >>> know, most, if not all of its urinals are used for free), >>> operator=Metropolitan Manila Development Authority >>> >>> --- On Wed, 6/17/09, Rally de Leon <rall...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> From: Rally de Leon <rall...@gmail.com> >>> Subject: Re: [talk-ph] tagging distinctly Philippine POIs >>> To: "maning sambale" <emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com> >>> Cc: "osm-ph" <talk-ph@openstreetmap.org> >>> Date: Wednesday, June 17, 2009, 5:08 PM >>> >>> (not all are distinctly ph poi's, but for the sake of discussion, here >>> are some POI examples i know or don't know): >>> >>> -Ukay-ukay / Wagwagan >>> -Hilot (manghihilot / mangtatawas) >>> -Daycare - is this classified as a school? >>> -Multipurpose Hall / Barangay Covered Courts - that cannot be plainly >>> classified as basketball court. >>> -Store that only sells LPG tank (gasul) >>> -Junkshop (buy and sells scrap) >>> -Store that primarily sells reconditioned and surplus equipments (eg. HMR) >>> -Barangay Outpost or Police Outpost (small booth only, not barangay >>> hall or police station) >>> -FX Terminal (including a tag for their route destination, eg. >>> crossing, ayala, megamall) >>> -Newspaper stand (Tabloid / Broadsheet) - some sari-sari store sell >>> newspaper, bulgar, taliba, most don't. >>> -Pay Restrooms (distinction between free/public and pay restroom) >>> -Auction houses/yard like the ones in subic (or are these just >>> considered buildings?) >>> -DIY shop that is specialized in electronic/speaker/radio parts, not a >>> typical hardware (Raon-type of store, more like a radioshack >>> equivalent, or Kuryente) - or just generalize this as "hardware shop"? >>> -free-standing betting stations/ pagcor / lotto outlets and alikes >>> -DVD DVD (or is this supposed to be secret) ;-) >>> >>> -clear and easy guideline which are considered fastfood and >>> restaurant. as we don't want too many POI icons on the map. >>> Eg. If you pay first (at the counter before you eat), then it's >>> FASTFOOD (eg. mcdo, jollibee, greenwich, and those at regular food >>> courts, including burger machine and good burger). >>> If you eat-first-then-pay-the-bill, then we generally put it under >>> RESTAURANT (especially if there's a waiter). >>> >>> except for the free-standing semi-permanent fishball/isaw/shawarma >>> stand/kiosk (and alikes) where you eat first, then pay all the >>> fishballs you've eaten. Is this classified as fastfood or simply >>> "snack stand"? >>> >>> So is "yellow cab" or goldilocks a restaurant or a fastfood? >>> >>> i believe goldilocks and redribbon falls under "bakeshop"? so >>> therefore, as long as they sell cake, even if they sell fastfood, the >>> priority tag must be bakeshop. is this ok? that way, we use lesser and >>> easier to identify POI icons (for use on mobile devices) >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> talk-ph mailing list >>> talk-ph@openstreetmap.org >>> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> talk-ph mailing list >>> talk-ph@openstreetmap.org >>> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> talk-ph mailing list >>> talk-ph@openstreetmap.org >>> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> talk-ph mailing list >>> talk-ph@openstreetmap.org >>> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> cheers, >> maning >> ------------------------------------------------------ >> "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden >> wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ >> blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ >> ------------------------------------------------------ >> > > > > -- > cheers, > maning > ------------------------------------------------------ > "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden > wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ > blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ > ------------------------------------------------------ > -- cheers, maning ------------------------------------------------------ "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ ------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph