Paul, It also says in the link you sent that, to distribute the data to third parties would be available via the consent of the map owners and paying them loyalties.
But I still suggest finding another source we can use and change the tags. Can On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 10:41 AM, H. Can Unen <can.u...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, > > HGK prohibits every action besides personal use of the purchased maps, so > using HGK data as a source is wrong. > > However, there are other sources such as the road maps of Turkish General > Directorate of Highways that we may be able to check and confirm those > place names and change the source tags instead of deleting the nodes. > > Is there a way to hide the nodes from display, but make visible in the > editor until a source that we can verify those place names is found? > > Can > > > On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 10:21 AM, Orkut Murat YILMAZ < > orkutmuratyil...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Dear Paul, >> >> Yes, HGK is the acronym for General Command of Mapping and I guess that >> they won't permit this situation. >> >> H. Can Ünen and me are going to try finding some official answers as soon >> as possible. >> >> Thanks for your warning. >> >> Best, >> Murat >> >> >> On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 7:56 AM, Paul Norman <penor...@mac.com> wrote: >> >>> > From: Paul Norman [mailto:penor...@mac.com] >>> > Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 3:08 PM >>> > Subject: [Talk-tr] HGK source >>> > >>> > In early April I noticed a number of place=village created by >>> Muthukumar >>> > (e.g. http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/2250559178) with >>> > source=HGK. >>> > >>> > At the time I wondered if they might be an import from a source that I >>> > didn't recognize and contacted the user asking them what the source >>> was, >>> > but I haven't gotten a reply in the 10 days since I messaged them, so >>> > I'm sending the question to a wider audience. Does anyone know what >>> > source=HGK is? >>> >>> Some checks revealed a potentially wider problem. >>> >>> source=HGK appears to refer to Harita Genel Komutanlığı which is the >>> official Turkish mapping agency. They apparently have no forms of open >>> data >>> or other license which we could use the data. >>> >>> My best guess is the original source of the data is >>> http://www.hgk.msb.gov.tr/urunler/diger/gazetteer.html. The metadata has >>> terms and conditions which would prevent their use in OSM. >>> >>> I looked at their webpage and couldn't find anything that would allow the >>> use of their data in OSM. >>> http://www.hgk.msb.gov.tr/yan_menu/sorular.asp#2 >>> may be relevant and based on the Bing translation it might be allowing >>> personal use, but not reproductions. >>> >>> Given the above, it looks like we're not allowed to use their data in OSM >>> and it must be redacted (removed). I propose to start doing so later this >>> week, after contacting katpatuka, Muthukumar, and Muruganantham, the >>> three >>> users who have created the most source=HGK objects. >>> >>> There a total of 31k objects, of which 28k are version 1. Most are by >>> katpatuka and most are place=* nodes. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Talk-tr mailing list >>> Talk-tr@openstreetmap.org >>> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-tr >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Talk-tr mailing list >> Talk-tr@openstreetmap.org >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-tr >> >> >
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