+1 The 'definitive statement' is the only thing from the local authority that we can really use, but that is surprisingly detailed. Here's an example of a path modification in Cambridgeshire "The above Order made on 30 May 2006, if confirmed as made, will modify the Definitive Map and Statement for the area by adding to them two public footpaths. The first (No. 26) starts on the southern side of Stetchworth Road, passes through a field gate at Ordnance Survey Grid Reference TL6340 5783 (point A) and runs as a grassed path in a southerly direction on the eastern side of a mature hedge for approximately 283m to OS GR TL6344 5755 (point B), then turns to run in a westerly direction for approximately 220m as a grassed path on the southern side of a ditch and hedge to join Public Footpath No.6, Dullingham through a field gate at OS GR TL6323 5752 (point C). The width is 2m from A-B and 1m from B-C. The second (No. 27) starts at a point on Public Footpath No.26 Dullingham at OS GR TL6344 5755 (point B), and runs through a field gate, continuing as a grass path in an easterly, southerly and then easterly direction for approximately 320m around the western and southern edges of the properties at Dullingham Ley to join Ley Road at OS GR TL6370 5749 (point D). The width is 1m.
Phillip [http://www.itn.co.uk/images/ITN_Master_blue.gif] PHILLIP BARNETT SERVER MANAGER 200 GRAY'S INN ROAD LONDON WC1X 8XZ UNITED KINGDOM T +44 (0)20 7430 4474 F E phillip.barn...@itn.co.uk WWW.ITN.CO.UK<http://WWW.ITN.CO.UK> P Please consider the environment. Do you really need to print this email? ________________________________ From: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) Sent: 25 September 2009 16:16 To: 'Dave F.' Cc: 'OSM Talk' Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Breach of Copyright? It does seem that what is needed here is not the definitive map but rather the survey data the two surveyors gathered. As others have said if that data has been overlain onto an OS map there is no way of knowing what is derived and what is not. Not unless the bod from the council is prepared to stick their neck out and confirm otherwise. As a result the OS would take issue because their data forms part of the definitive map. Cheers Andy ________________________________ From: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Dave F. Sent: 25 September 2009 3:16 PM Cc: OSM Talk Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Breach of Copyright? Tom Hughes wrote: On 25/09/09 14:30, Dave F. wrote: The map he sent is titled as a Definitive Map. It has an OS underlay, but the information laid on top is compiled from Council gathered info. eg GPS survey equipment from an independent company employed to produce the definitive maps. Do you know for absolute certainty that every single detail was gathered from first principles like that? If it was then it is a very unusual bit of local council mapping as they are not generally that scrupulously careful... Well... not every detail, no, but there was a report in the local newspaper: "Two surveyors will be walking virtually every one of the 560 miles of footpath in the area." And also in the Council produced pamphlet where two people were shown holding their very nice big yellow GPS units. Isn't every council having to do the same to produce their Definitive Maps? The reason of course is that they have a license to do what they like with OS data so it largely doesn't matter to them whether they derive things from it (well at least until they try and overlay that data on a google map and get nastygrams from the OS). Tom Please Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Independent Television News Limited unless specifically stated. This email and any files attached are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify postmas...@itn.co.uk Please note that to ensure regulatory compliance and for the protection of our clients and business, we may monitor and read messages sent to and from our systems. Thank You.
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