Chris Hill wrote: > Dave F. wrote: > >> Tom Hughes wrote: >> >> >>> On 25/09/09 13:16, Dave F. wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> I had an email conversation with the mapping officer from my local >>>> council. He intimated that the data relating to public rights of way, >>>> and its associated copyright, would belong to the Local Council. When >>>> they make a legal order to record a public right of way they send a copy >>>> of the order to the OS who then copy the line of the right of way onto >>>> their own maps. >>>> >>>> >>> In principle that is correct - the problem arises if the council has >>> referred to an OS map in any way while defining the right of way. If >>> they have then the OS will claim it is a derived work and infected by >>> their copyright etc. >>> >>> Tom >>> >>> >>> >> The map he sent is titled as a Definitive Map. It has an OS underlay, >> but the information laid on top is compiled from Council gathered info. >> eg GPS survey equipment from an independent company employed to produce >> the definitive maps. >> It would come down to what you, I, council & OS mean by 'define' I suppose. >> >> This is the copyright at the bottom: >> "Reproduced from the Ordnance Survey mapping with the permission of the >> Controller of Her Majesty's Stationery Office © Crown Copyright. >> Unauthorised reproduction infringes Crown copyright and may lead to >> prosecution or civil proceedings." >> >> Note it says 'reproduced' not produced. Not sure if that is significant >> or not. >> >> If I was to transfer the paths, I wouldn't be copying the OS underlay >> map just the ways of the path. Does that make a difference? >> >> Cheers >> Dave F. >> >> >> > The copyright statement at the bottom is all that counts. OS will claim > it is a derivative work, so, they could claim that if you copy from it > into OSM you will be in breach their copyright. The tracks only gain > context because they are on an OS map. The only way to settle who is in > the wrong is to go to court, which OSM cannot afford. I don't like the > wide-ranging claims that the OS make about derivative works but I don't > think we can afford to ignore them. > > Why not walk or cycle the routes with a GPS, collect the tracks and > photos, enjoy some time in the countryside, add the paths to the map > with a clear conscience and metaphorically thumb your nose at the OS? > I do Chris, I do. However, if I can find a way to /legally/ import data I don't see a problem. Take a look at Transit Talk for examples of mass data import (Naptan). It saves hell of a lot of time! > Cheers, Chris > > _______________________________________________ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > > >
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