Dave, 

MapRoulette challenges have been designed specifically with the armchair mapper 
in mind - no local knowledge should be required to fix what MapRoulette asks 
you to fix. 

If you can provide factual evidence that MapRoulette (or its new cousin 
MapBoxRoulette) are causing significant harm to OpenStreetMap data, please let 
me know and - at least for MapRoulette - I can see about appropriate measures. 
These could include providing better instructions, or even taking down a 
particular challenge - as I have done in the past. 

My extensive experience preparing MapRoulette challenges, listening to feedback 
from its users and looking at lots and lots of edits made by MapRoulette users 
all point to the conclusion that this is a good way to get a lot of eyes on 
particular problems, and get them fixed much, much faster than would otherwise 
have been possible. 

In a perfect world, we’d have local mappers everywhere. In the real world, we 
can use all the help we can get. MapRoulette gets help to some of the remote, 
forgotten places.
-- 
Martijn van Exel

From: Dave F. <dave...@madasafish.com>
Reply: Dave F. <dave...@madasafish.com>>
Date: August 22, 2014 at 6:16:33 PM
To: Martijn van Exel <m...@rtijn.org>>, maproule...@openstreetmap.org 
<maproule...@openstreetmap.org>>, OSM Talk <talk@openstreetmap.org>>
Subject:  Re: [OSM-talk] Detrimental to the OSM database (was: Ways needing 
smoothing back on track)  

Hello All

Please include all replies to OM-Talk:

I was meaning to start a separate thread on this subject, but this seems the 
appropriate time & place.

This website, along with http://osmlab.github.io/to-fix/ ( & maybe others) are 
encouraging errors to be introduced to the OSM database.

For obvious reasons there's a discouragement of armchair mapping. These sites 
take it another step into inaccuracy by asking you to randomly correct a 
supposed error ( & I /really/ want to emphasise 'supposed') that the user can 
have no factual knowledge of whether the error is true or not. 

I live in the UK. How can I possibly know if there's genuinely a "sharp angle" 
in Arizona or there's something less than 2 metres away from another object 
that should be connected in Cambodia?

IMO these websites are detrimental to the OSM database & should be rescinded. 

Dave F.

On 22/08/2014 22:25, Martijn van Exel wrote:
Hi all - just wanted to let you know that the ‘Ways Needing Smoothing’ 
MapRoulette challenge is finally being updated again. It used to consist of 
mostly false positives for the past week, and there still are some, but there 
should be some fun to be had there still :)

http://maproulette.org/#t=waysneedingsmoothing/

It’s still U.S. only :( but we’re getting closer to being able to doing it for 
other countries as well.
-- 
Martijn van Exel



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