Spot on. Although the routing engine data could impose a turn restriction
here based upon geometry as part of their data pipeline.

I wonder if it is legal to turn there and, if not, does that form part of
the ground truth IRT OSM, regardless of whether there is a sign present.


On Fri, 11 Jan 2019 at 22:53, Marc Gemis <marc.ge...@gmail.com> wrote:

> If you miss the on-ramp and are waiting for the traffic signals, a
> router can recalculate the route in the meantime and still try to let
> you turn left at the traffic signals.
>
> m.
>
> On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 1:47 PM Maarten Deen <md...@xs4all.nl> wrote:
> >
> > I agree that Markus' solution is more elegant (and I was more looking to
> > the offramp itself). I would normally also map it like that but I also
> > don't go out of my way to correct situations like that.
> > The way it is mapped now is more organic, more as you would actually
> > drive. As such I don't see it as wrong.
> >
> > I would not add a turn restriction. For routers it is useless because
> > you never get that route anyway.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Maarten
> >
> > On 2019-01-11 13:23, Jem wrote:
> > >> I'd map that place like that:
> > >
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:ID_Screen_Shot_from_-32.0914374,_116.0129206.png
> > >
> > > I agree. And a supplementary question... would you also add a
> > > no-left-turn restriction from https://osm.org/way/581948344 at
> > > https://osm.org/node/5680879176? I would, and have done in the past.
> > > But to be honest, I'm not sure if a turn like that (having already
> > > passed the slip lane designated for the turn) is legal or not.
> > >
> > > On Fri, 11 Jan 2019 at 20:47, Markus <selfishseaho...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> On Fri, 11 Jan 2019 at 07:40, Maarten Deen <md...@xs4all.nl> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> On 2019-01-11 07:16, Petra Rajka - (p) wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> See below two cases where we would simplify the geometry:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>       * -32.0914374, 116.0129206
> > >>>
> > >>> Is seen no big problem in how the roads are layed out there.
> > >> Coming from
> > >>> the motorway there is a clear divider where the offramp connects
> > >> to the
> > >>> Albany Highway.
> > >>
> > >> <https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/596272469> and
> > >> <https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/596272466> form a
> > >> double-rectangle,
> > >> but there isn't such a divider. I'd map that place like that:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:ID_Screen_Shot_from_-32.0914374,_116.0129206.png
> > >>
> > >>> I have more problems with the tags of the on- and offramp. They
> > >> are
> > >>> mapped as motorway when they should be mapped as motorway_link.
> > >> The two
> > >>> bridges in the on- and offramp are mapped as motorway_link.
> > >>
> > >> +1. I'd also delete the descriptions like Tonkin Highway Southbound
> > >> Ramp off to Albany Highway in the name tag unless the ramps are
> > >> signed
> > >> like that on site.
> > >>
> > >>>>       * -35.3409195, 149.1616891
> > >>>
> > >>> Ways 77001149 and 77000891 should IMHO not be mapped like that but
> > >>> mapped with turn:lanes.
> > >>
> > >> +1
> > >>
> > >> Regards
> > >>
> > >> Markus
> > >>
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