On Friday 26 July 2019, Frederik Ramm wrote: > > This is probably normal for corporate PR people, but for me it's just > disgusting.
And in that conflict in my eyes you can see the core of the problem. The corporate appropriation of OpenStreetMap and the OSM community has meanwhile all the characteristics of a cult. You can see in the reactions of corporate representatives here - as well as in other cases where corporate PR misrepresenting OSM is presented, see for example the comments to the Facebook diary entry that has been linked to or in the discussion with the Thailand community, that many of them are so detached from the reality of the hobby mapper community and non-corporate data users that functional communication is essentially not possible any more. I have no solution for this - at least none that works within OSM alone. But i have strong doubts meanwhile that arguing with people who are fully immersed into the belief system of corporate PR regarding OSM is of benefit in most cases. This in itself is a pretty frightening realization. There is a famous saying (not sure of its origin) - that fits pretty well here: It is hard to make people understand something if their livelihood depends on not understanding it. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ _______________________________________________ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk