On 2014 Sep 30 (Tue) at 14:37:08 +0400 (+0400), Vadim Zhukov wrote:
:2014-09-30 14:27 GMT+04:00 Stefan Sperling <s...@openbsd.org>:
:> On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 11:59:25AM +0200, Martin Pieuchot wrote:
:>> Hey Vadim, I'm happy to see you've put some efforts into improving
:>> how wireless networks are configured on OpenBSD.  I have some questions
:>> below.
:>>
:>> On 26/09/14(Fri) 21:38, Vadim Zhukov wrote:
:>> >
:>> > This is a proof-of-concept patch that implements network "profiles"
:>> > in kernel, using IEEE 802.11 network name and/or BSSID.
:>>
:>> Why did you choose to put this in the kernel, did you encounter any
:>> technical problem, or was it easier/better that way?
:>
:> Note also that there is an existing 'autoassoc' behaviour.
:> The net80211 stack will try to automatically associate with
:> an open wireless network as soon as the interface is brought up.
:> I think it would make sense to try to keep this behaviour for
:> encrypted networks for which the key has been pre-loaded into
:> kernel memory somehow. The primary focus of the kernel should be
:> on trying to get link on an interface, like it does with open wifi.
:
:Yes, I've seen that behaviour. And it actually bothers me - what if I
:get associated with untrusted network, and my already opened
:Ajax-enabled browser will start to transfer data via it without
:notification?.. This can be avoided by forcing some unlikely nwid in
:hostname.if, but this is not "secure by default". Or maybe I search
:for security in the wrong place, dunno...
:

If we have any network configuration, then we SHOULD NOT connect to any
random wifi point.  If there is no (or minimal) configs, then I am not
too bothered by connecting randomly.

However, I would cheer a change to not auto-connect to the first open
wifi point.

FWIW, OSX allows for a list of wifi points to connect to, and does not
automagically connect to any open access point.

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