On Mon, May 15, 2023 at 09:17:00AM -0400, Okan Demirmen wrote: > On Mon 2023.05.15 at 10:41 +0200, Matthieu Herrb wrote: > > On Mon, May 15, 2023 at 06:26:41AM +0000, Klemens Nanni wrote: > > > Both fvwm(1) and twm(1) have a restart menu that contains other window > > > managers by default, which is useful if you want to switch around > > > without restarting X and/or custom window manager config. > > > > > > cwm(1) only offers to restart into itself by deafult. > > > Add the other two we ship by default so users can round trip between > > > them. > > > > > > Feedback? OK? > > > > Last year I mentionned that I think we should retire twm. It's really > > too old and missing support for the modern window managers hints. > > > > People still using it should switch to cwm or maybe ctwm from ports > > (to keep the same configurarion system), or someone should step up to > > maintain it and enhance it with exwmh support. (but this is somehow > > just wasting time imho). > > > > Otherwise ok to add this and fix the other WM menus for other window > > managers (those parts of the configs are already local changes in > > Xenocara) > > I might argue the opposite, to remove cwm from fvwm and twm restart menus, if > this inconsistency is a real concern. The entries in fvwm/twm are in the > (shipped) example config files, where-as below it is, well, there for good > with > no user choice. Heck, how often to do people even use this restart wm to > another WM outside of playing around? Most window managers handle restarts > differently, regardless of what ICCCM/EWMH says) and even then, crossing > window > managers like this introduces inconsistencies. It's fine for playing around I > suppose, but is it really a demanded "workflow"? > > > > > > > PS: fwvm and twm menus more programs we don't ship, e.g. "wm2", and > > > twm dies when failing to execute them (fvwm and cwm keeps running); > > > do we want to keep those default-broken entries around? > > I'd support removing them.
+1 I don't think hardcoding window managers into cwm makes sense. I don't think anyone is actually switching around WMs at runtime like this. If the point is for new users to have an example that provides a list of alternative WMs, perhaps this is a man page issue and they should be added to "SEE ALSO" sections. -Bryan.
