Regarding your final point, that is true, backups are always good philosophies 
regardless of whether they’re local or cloud-based.  On that latter point, I’m 
seriously thinking of making the cloud-based backup facilities which my 
commercial clients currently enjoy available to “others”, although I will need 
to be quite selective regarding personnel.  Anybody who may be interested can 
contact me off list, <gor...@mac-access.net>.

Again, regarding your final point, that’s obviously true.  But not having to go 
through the hassles of reinstalling, (regardless of whether the backup is easy 
to access or otherwise), is obviously also a most desirable circumstance.  For 
the recored, all of my systems, PC and OS X, not to mention Android and iOS, 
are backed up regularly.  But all the same, one occasionally hits snags and 
this brand new system is just such a case. It crashed before I had the 
opportunity to attend to the installation of backup strategies, and I haven’t 
had any luck with it since.  I may have to try and locate the receipt and, 
though it sticks in my gullet having to do so, take it back to the store and 
ask them to sort it out.

========================================

My compliments and kindest regards
Gordon Smith:
<gor...@mac-access.net <mailto:gor...@mac-access.net>>

Accessibility & Information Technology Support Specialist.
Hartlepool Blind
Avenue Road
Hartlepool
TS24 8BB
Cleveland
Work Phone:
+44 (0)1429 272494
Mobile/SMS:
+44 (0)7907 823971

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I've since been talking to others regarding C Cleaner for Android.


It seems that the automated functions of C Cleaner for Android are disabled 
when using Android V 6.0 or above and I think I can understand why, don't want 
to cause unnecessary damage., perhaps that's a safety feature of 6.0.


As far as C Cleaner goes on my Windows PC? I did a fair amount of customisation 
with the software when I installed it so I know exactly what C Cleaner will 
delete and what it won't.


In any case I don't keep a backup of my Windows Desktop PC just for the hell of 
keeping one <smile>.



On 2/05/2016 4:59 AM, Gordon Smith wrote:
> Checking my database, I find that I have actually bought Cleaner Network 
> Edition a while back, used it but forgotten about it.  Maybe worth shot.  
> CleanMyMac 3.0 is pretty good, although I don’t trust its “File Removal” 
> mechanism at all.  I have no desire to lose some of those files it wants to 
> remove and I had to do a lot of customisation on the thing before I dared let 
> it loose on my main system.  Yes, I dare to let it loose on my test system 
> because that is precisely why that system is there, for testing of various 
> pieces of software, including some from Apple themselves.
> 
> I’m certainly not going to prejudge, as I said earlier in this thread.  I’ve 
> actually got a Windows system at the moment which is resisting all my 
> attempts to reinstall.  I’ve done it so often over the last few days that 
> I’ve almost learned how to use the Windows 10 graphical installer interface 
> off by heart and without assistance.  But I do need toaddress that point 
> properly shortly as I have no intention of allowing a brand new system which 
> I chose quite deliberately because of its high technical specifications in 
> view of the applications that I bought it for.  of course, if I could get at 
> the recovery partition it would be easy as 1, 2, 3.  But even with visual 
> help there seems to be no way to access that partition from anywhere.  
> Usually there’s some kind of BIOS prompt that tells you briefly to press a 
> key to enter the recovery phase.  But not on this system it seems.  Although 
> it sits there with the manufacturers’ logo on it for about 30 seconds, it 
> doesn’t give me any hint as to how the hell you access the recovery.  The 
> printed documentation is pretty much a waste of paper.  All it tells you is 
> how to plug it in and turn on the power!  But I’m getting off the point.
> 
> You know, some of these so-called system utilities, especially for Windows 
> but also other platforms as well, have been proven to do virtually, or 
> completely nothing.  They’re just pretty graphical utilities which. for want 
> of a better word, “con” the user into thinking that when they click on the 
> “Fix Problems” or whatever icon, the utility just enters a loop whereby it 
> goes and paints pretty pictures, but that’s all.
> 
> I’m not in a position to comment regarding specific apps.  But that 
> information came directly from somebody I know at Microsoft and also from an 
> independent test person.  The way he tested the utilities was to deliberately 
> corrupt his system and then see if the utilities themselves find and fix the 
> problems.  Some of them did diagnose the problems. but from what I’m given to 
> understand, not many of them actually did take any remedial action at all.
> 
> So, I guess that what I am advocating is make sure your money’s going on the 
> right utilities.  I.E., test as thoroughly as you’re able too before putting 
> your hands into your pockets.
> 
> ========================================
> 
> My compliments and kindest regards
> Gordon Smith:
> <gor...@mac-access.net <mailto:gor...@mac-access.net>>
> 
> Accessibility & Information Technology Support Specialist.
> Hartlepool Blind
> Avenue Road
> Hartlepool
> TS24 8BB
> Cleveland
> Work Phone:
> +44 (0)1429 272494
> Mobile/SMS:
> +44 (0)7907 823971
> 
> ————————————————————
> 
> On 30 Apr 2016, at 21:16, Dane Trethowan < 
> <mailto:grtd...@internode.on.net>grtd...@internode.on.net 
> <mailto:grtd...@internode.on.net>> wrote:
> 
> The unfortunate fact is that some Apps do certain jobs better than others.
> 
> C Cleaner on the windows PC is amongst the best out there for most cleaning 
> and maintenance jobs given its accessibility and customisation but for 
> registry cleaning? Well i have my doubts.
> 
> I used an App called Regservo for Windows and it detected 1,500 registry 
> problems on my Windows Desktop machine.
> 
> Now I honestly don’t know just how many registry problems the registry of the 
> machine had but I do know I did have some nagging issues that just wouldn’t 
> go away and I couldn’t find fixes for.
> 
> I ran C Cleaner every day as part of the maintenance for the Desktop machine 
> and it seemed to have done a reasonable job though those annoyances and 
> irritations in the running of the system were still evident.
> 
> I ran Regservo and much of the rotten behaviour I was experiencing with the 
> Desktop machine has gone so go Figure <smile>.
> 
> I guess if something works for you then use it but that doesn’t mean there 
> may be something else out out there which can do a better job.
> 
> I have no complaints, I was using C Cleaner Pro which cost $20 for the 
> licence.  Regservo has a yearly subscription licence for $39 which includes 
> all updates and upgrades to the products.
> 
> Regservo has quite a few more tools which can be used including the ability 
> to fix Windows system files which may become corrupted, online support for 
> those times when you run into Windows Errors that need attention etc.
> 
> The interface of Regservo is reasonably accessible though I had to label a 
> few buttons in the Interface.
> 
> Regarding the Mac? I’ve always used Cocktail in the main and I haven’t really 
> used C Cleaner all that much but I do know that the App is accessible enough 
> and easy enough for most people to use.
> 
> It appeared to me at least that the Mac version of C Cleaner wasn’t getting 
> as much attention as the Windows version was.
> 
> 
>> On 1 May 2016, at 5:58 AM, Gordon Smith <gor...@mac-access.net 
>> <mailto:gor...@mac-access.net>> wrote:
>> 
>> I really wouldn’t like to pre-judge, I haven’t tried cCleaner for millions 
>> of years!  Maybe I should, but I have so many cleaning apps for the Mac, 
>> including the very full-featured Cocktail, CleanMyMac, to name but two.  It 
>> forces you to wonder why we bother wasting all that space when one app would 
>> probably have done the trick anyway.  But to be honest, the best and most 
>> useful app I have on the Mac for cleaning up is a little app called 
>> “TrashMe”  TrashMe, (pronounced “Trash, Me”) allows you to remove an app 
>> and, once you do, it offers to remove all files associated with that 
>> applications, such as preference files etc.  Great for when you want to try 
>> something, but decide it isn’t for you.  All those messy preference files 
>> that ordinarily get left behind when you remove an app from your system, 
>> it’s amazing.
>> 
>> I’m not sure whether such a thing exists for Windows, but it really would be 
>> useful if so.  TrashMe has saved me loads of drive space, and loads of time.
>> 
>> ========================================
>> 
>> My compliments and kindest regards
>> Gordon Smith:
>> < <mailto:gor...@mac-access.net>gor...@mac-access.net 
>> <mailto:gor...@mac-access.net>>
>> 
>> Accessibility & Information Technology Support Specialist.
>> Hartlepool Blind
>> Avenue Road
>> Hartlepool
>> TS24 8BB
>> Cleveland
>> Work Phone:
>> +44 (0)1429 272494
>> Mobile/SMS:
>> +44 (0)7907 823971
>> 
>> ————————————————————
>> 
>> On 30 Apr 2016, at 20:37, Dane Trethowan < 
>> <mailto:grtd...@internode.on.net>grtd...@internode.on.net 
>> <mailto:grtd...@internode.on.net>> wrote:
>> 
>> Indeed, caution is the word these days.
>> 
>> 
>> I ran C Cleaner on my Mobile yesterday, after running it 171MB of Cache was 
>> freed, maybe the operating system or Samsung Galaxy Smart Manager might have 
>> done much the same thing? Not exactly sure.
>> 
>> 
>> I bought C Cleaner for Android given mainly due to the excellent run I've 
>> had with C Cleaner on my Mac and Windows machines.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 1/05/2016 4:58 AM, Gordon Smith wrote:
>>> I am not saying that I necessarily agree with the comment which 
>>> manufacturers and developers made, and yes, it was their comment, not mine. 
>>>  As it happens I run Vipre Carbonate on all my Android devices.  Maybe it 
>>> is needed, maybe it isn’t needed.  But I see no harm in airing on the side 
>>> of portion.
>>> 
>>> ========================================
>>> 
>>> My compliments and kindest regards
>>> Gordon Smith:
>>> < <mailto:gor...@mac-access.net>gor...@mac-access.net 
>>> <mailto:gor...@mac-access.net>>
>>> 
>>> Accessibility & Information Technology Support Specialist.
>>> Hartlepool Blind
>>> Avenue Road
>>> Hartlepool
>>> TS24 8BB
>>> Cleveland
>>> Work Phone:
>>> +44 (0)1429 272494
>>> Mobile/SMS:
>>> +44 (0)7907 823971
>>> 
>>> ————————————————————
>>> 
>>> On 30 Apr 2016, at 17:18, Dane Trethowan < 
>>> <mailto:grtd...@internode.on.net>grtd...@internode.on.net 
>>> <mailto:grtd...@internode.on.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Okay so given what you’ve said here’s the question, why then do Samsung 
>>> Galaxy devices for example ship with the Smart manage utility?
>>> 
>>> As for Anti Virus/Security utilities? Yep no requirement for those however 
>>> Android is like Mac, Windows or everything else where say emails with 
>>> infected or malicious attachments can be opened, the communications to and 
>>> from your device can be intercepted via public Wi-Fi hotspots and so on.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 1 May 2016, at 1:40 AM, Gordon Smith < 
>>>> <mailto:gor...@mac-access.net>gor...@mac-access.net 
>>>> <mailto:gor...@mac-access.net>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> According to Samsung and LG and Google, there’s no advantage in thee 
>>>> utilities.  Actually, they also claim that there is absolutely no 
>>>> requirement for antivirus software on Android.  So I guess it comes down 
>>>> to who you opt to believe, the AV/Cleaner developers, or the manufacturers 
>>>> of the OS.  I don’t know because I personally have never encountered a 
>>>> situation where my AV software on Android even bothered to claim something 
>>>> was infected.  So I have to admit that I’m starting to wonder just why I 
>>>> bothered. ;-)
>>>> 
>>>> ========================================
>>>> 
>>>> My compliments and kindest regards
>>>> Gordon Smith:
>>>> < <mailto:gor...@mac-access.net>gor...@mac-access.net 
>>>> <mailto:gor...@mac-access.net>>
>>>> 
>>>> Accessibility & Information Technology Support Specialist.
>>>> Hartlepool Blind
>>>> Avenue Road
>>>> Hartlepool
>>>> TS24 8BB
>>>> Cleveland
>>>> Work Phone:
>>>> +44 (0)1429 272494
>>>> Mobile/SMS:
>>>> +44 (0)7907 823971
>>>> 
>>>> ————————————————————
>>>> 
>>>> On 30 Apr 2016, at 00:34, Dane Trethowan < 
>>>> <mailto:grtd...@internode.on.net>grtd...@internode.on.net 
>>>> <mailto:grtd...@internode.on.net>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi!
>>>> 
>>>> I don’t think my email on this subject got sent for some strange reason 
>>>> the first time so I’ll have another go.
>>>> 
>>>> Users of Windows and Mac machines may have heard of a clever utility 
>>>> called Cleaner which cleans the hard drive, the registry and comes with 
>>>> some handy repair tools.
>>>> 
>>>> Cleaner is now available for Android as an Android App which performs many 
>>>> cleaning and maintenance functions on an Android device, the App can be 
>>>> downloaded from Google Play or you can find out more information at  
>>>> <http://www.ccleaner.com/>http://www.ccleaner.com 
>>>> <http://www.ccleaner.com/>
>>>> 
>>>> Cleaner for Android comes in 2 versions, standard and Professional and is 
>>>> very accessible.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> **********
>>>> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
>>>> halfwits in this world behind.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> **********
>>> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
>>> halfwits in this world behind.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> 
>> **********
>> Those who don't need help are prepared to help themselves
>> 
> 
> **********
> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
> halfwits in this world behind.
> 
> 
> 
> 

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