I have Chrome on all my Windows systems here. In the early days I used to have a lot of trouble with Chrome just crashing for no apparent reason on Windows machines. This problem for the most part seems to have been addressed by the team at Google and I just don’t see the issue now. Google is lightning fast on the platforms I use it on and it works so that’s good enough for me.
> On 20 Apr 2019, at 7:43 pm, Gordon Smith <gor...@mac-access.net> wrote: > > The Windows version didn’t impress me all that much, to be utterly honest. In > fact, I removed it after a while. On my BrailleNote Touch, (which runs > Android), it does work very well with speech turned off, which is my usual > method of working. > > HumanWare also has its own browser, called “KeyWeb”. It’s similar in some > respects to Chrome, and I suspect it’s built around similar source code. > However, KeyWeb doesn’t show you a real version of most web pages. For a > start, it doesn’t seem to indicate the presence of images, although it will > display Alt Text and LongDesc elements. On the whole though, I prefer to use > Chrome when browsing on that device. > > > On 19 Apr 2019, at 17:27, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote: > > Google Chrome all round is a very nice browser on whatever platform you > choose to use it, IOS, OS, Android and Windows. > > >> On 20 Apr 2019, at 2:21 am, Gordon Smith <gor...@mac-access.net> wrote: >> >> Your points are well taken. I was going to mention the Windows example >> actually, although another one springs to mind as well. For me, for whatever >> reason, Safari on MacOS is nowhere near as effective as Google Chrome is on >> that platform. I see many, many sites where Safari either just displays half >> of the web page, whereas Chrome shows it all and makes it accessible. Often, >> Safari fails to show up frames and controls such as video buttons. I don’t >> really want to get into a MacOS discussion here, that’s more appropriate for >> Mac Access. But the point here is that the differences between the browsers >> is amazing. >> >> And yes, I am afraid I couldn’t resist it. To join the Mac Access mailing >> list, which is the sister group to this one, run on the same terms on the >> same servers, please send a blank. Message to: >> <mac-access-subscr...@mac-access.net> >> Respond to the Cookie message you receive backhand you’re good to go. >> >> Now, enough about Mac and Apple. ;-) >> >> >> On 19 Apr 2019, at 17:04, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote: >> >> The answer to your question would very much depend on the user of the device. >> Some Apps work better with Google Talkback whilst other work better with >> Samsung Voice Assist. >> Samsung Voice Assist is in fact a modified version of Google Talkback and >> Google Talkback is an open source project so anyone can make changes or >> modifications as they see fit. >> A further example of modifications being made to Google Talkback is with >> Amazon’s VoiceView Screen Reader which is found in many Amazon Tablets and >> Echo devices with a screen such as Echo Spot and Show. >> The situation with Google Talkback and Voice Assistant can also be compared >> to that often encountered when using Windows on a PC. >> Windows users will be all-too-familiar with the situation of some Windows >> Apps being more accessible when a particular Windows Screen Reader is being >> used. >> >> >>> On 20 Apr 2019, at 1:44 am, <mmstopk...@gmail.com> <mmstopk...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Some I have a question. Do people use voice assistant more than talkback on >>> galaxy phones? If so why? >>> >>> Mike >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Gordon Smith <gor...@mac-access.net> >>> Sent: Friday, April 19, 2019 6:18 AM >>> To: Techno-Chat ... Technology Enthusiasm! <techno-chat@techno-chat.net> >>> Subject: Re: [Techno-Chat]: Samsung Galaxy S10 Notes >>> >>> Just one comment for the moment, as I don’t yet have my planned acquisition >>> of the S10. On a standard phone, such as the Sony Xperia X Performance and >>> Xperia Z2+ phones, how do you change the launcher? Sorry, but I just can’t >>> remember. Actually, on my Xperia, I can’t even get to the Google settings, >>> so I. Can’t get to the Play Store. >>> >>> >>> On 13 Apr 2019, at 04:09, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> Here are some interesting discoveries I’ve made with regard to the >>> operation of the Samsung Galaxy S10. >>> Some of these are probably old favourites to other users out there and if >>> that’s the case both bare with me and feel free to comment on anything I >>> may have missed. >>> I have found it necessary with previous phones to change the default >>> Launcher. >>> Until recently Google would have been my choice of preference however it >>> seems that Google is no longer developing their Launcher so I switched to >>> Nova until the S10 came along. >>> It seems that Samsung have been doing some serious thinking with regard to >>> their default Launcher to the point that the Samsung Launcher is now >>> incredibly easy to use it seems. >>> From the home screen swipe up to get to the Apps screen, what could be >>> easier than that. >>> I haven’t yet worked out how one would move items on the Home Screen from >>> place to place or even if one can remove or uninstall Apps from the Home or >>> App pages. Apps aren’t so much of a problem to uninstall as that task can >>> be accomplished through the Google Play Store App. >>> Another list member mentioned that the user can reorder the navigation >>> buttons at the bottom of the screen. >>> By default the “Recents” button is to the left of the “Home” and the “Back” >>> button is to the right. Added to this is the ability to change the >>> behaviour of these buttons. >>> Normally one has to double-tap but this can be changed to a single tap, you >>> slide to hold the button and then release your finger or if you know >>> exactly where the navigation buttons at the bottom of the screen are then >>> just place your finger on the button and lift. >>> It would appear that some new gestures have been added to Samsung’s Voice >>> Assistant. Double tapping on the screen 3 times reads out a status message >>> and what you hear can be controlled from the settings of Voice Assistant >>> under Screen Reader under Vision in the Accessibility settings. >>> The user might only prefer a short status message consisting of time and >>> battery remaining percentage whilst others might prefer more status content >>> such as wi-fi signal and so on. >>> Voice Assistant users would be familiar with the 3-finger swipe from left >>> to right to move between such adjustments as dark cursor, voice rate, voice >>> volume and so on. 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