On 27 August 2010 Joan Warmbold wrote: >As a relevant tangent, do any of you recall that a production >of Hitler's life was planned for HBO or PBS but was canceled >as it provided some objective information about his abusive >childhood.
That's a strong allegation to make without citation, Joan. Please supply chapter and verse – in particular that the production was cancelled for the reason you give. Joan writes: >As some of you might be aware, Hitler was beaten on >a regular basis by his father , and some sources claim >on a daily basis, sources below. I don't doubt that Hitler was beaten by his father, as I imagine many children were in those days. It may well be that in Hitler's case the beatings were more severe and more regular, but I would need more than the references cited by Joan to be convinced. The first one is the Wikipedia Hitler page: "Hitler's father frequently beat his wife and children with a whip." The reference for this statement is this documentary: http://www.history.com/topics/adolf-hitler/videos#adolf-hitler According to the commentator David Einsenbach, "Hitler's father frequently beat his wife and children with a whip." There is no way of knowing how reliable this information is. (Eisenbach teaches media and politics Columbia University, but doesn't seem to have any particular expertise regarding Hitler.) Joan's second citation is the website "Famous People", where one finds a reference to "the regular whipping and violence committed by his father." However, one look at the website indicates that it is unlikely to be a source of reliable information: http://www.thefamouspeople.com/profiles/adolf-hitler-8.php I have no idea how badly Hitler was beaten in childhood by his father. In his book *Explaining Hitler: The Search for the Origins of his Evil*, Ron Rosenbaum writes that "We have only Hitler's self-pitying word for it that he was the victim of savage paternal beatings, an account contradicted by some who remembered his father as a far milder sort" Does anyone have any information on this, preferably more reliable than from the commentator on a "popular" documentary and the website "Famous People". Allen Esterson Former lecturer, Science Department Southwark College, London allenester...@compuserve.com http://www.esterson.org --------------------------------------------- From: Joan Warmbold <jwarm...@oakton.edu> Subject: Re: Raising Hitler to be "a nice person" Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 15:16:28 -0500 I don't think Lovaas had a stunning ego whatsoever. Someone on this listserv had mentioned the rather odd fact that the NYT's had delayed their obituary of Lovaas for three days. I suspect they wanted their /fact checkers/ to make sure this guy was as accomplished and productive in his work with autistic children as had been claimed--as behavioral strategies are so frequently misunderstood and unjustly maligned.. Now Beth, consider a Hitler type personality who at the age of 4 is reinforced only for prosocial behavior and given extinction for all anti-social behavior? Could that not have altered the impact of his abusive childhood? As some of you might be aware, Hitler was beaten on a regular basis by his father , and some sources claim on a daily basis, sources below. As a relevant tangent, do any of you recall that a production of Hitler's life was planned for HBO or PBS but was canceled as it provided some objective information about his abusive childhood. I guess many folks prefer to believe the "bad seed" theory as opposed to the influence of violence in a child's early years. Please do check out the sources provided below as my guess is that many of you are not aware of Hitler's brutal childhood. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler#Childhood http://www.thefamouspeople.com/profiles/adolf-hitler-8.php Joan Joan Warmbold Boggs jwarm...@oakton.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5&n=T&l=tips&o=4465 or send a blank email to leave-4465-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
