Well actually if you have them in 2 places it can cause terminal errors, and
at the very least will waste time and memory on startup.  Common/lib is not
an ideal solution, but you might want to try it at least to see if it works.
In any case, if you install things like Slide (a Jakarta DMS/CMS
webDAV-based framework), all the webDAV Servlets (and indeed everything
else) goes in common/lib.  Alternatively, have you try putting it inside the
/lib directory of your webapp?  It will then only be accessible to that
webapp tho.


-----Original Message-----
From: Pike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 27 August 2003 00:25
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: newbie - finding class files

Hi

thanks for your response (sorry about the repeated post - my mistake)

> What's wrong with putting them in CATALINA_HOME/common/lib?

well, nothing. it just sounds very ugly, having the same jar files
running twice in one tomcat, once in server/lib and once in common/lib.
is this how its _normally_ done ?

another point is, tomcat starts complaining about 'bundles' then,
but this may be solvable    ...

> I found this old thread about extending WebdavServlet,
> in which Andreas Probst notes his webapp cant load classes
> from the $CATALINA_HOME/servlet/lib/ dir.
>
> this url
>       
> http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/tomcat-4.0-doc/class-loader-howto.html
> makes it clear why.
>
> but now: how should I  extend WebdavServlet inside my webapp ?
> If i put my own classes in the org.apache.bla package, it can't load
> the classes from my webapp, ofcourse.
>
> should I copy all jar files from  $CATALINA_HOME/servlet/lib/*jar
> to my webapps /WEB-INF/lib ?
>
>   that should work, but it sounds ugly.
>
>
>
>>
>> On Tue, 16 Jul 2002, Andreas Probst wrote:
>>
>>> Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 13:59:49 +0200
>>> From: Andreas Probst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Reply-To: Tomcat Users List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Subject: RE: newbie - finding class files
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 15 Jul 2002, Andreas Probst wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> does Tomcat really look into tomcatdir/server/lib? For me it  seems
>>>>> Tomcat doesn't.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This directory is only visible to the classloader for Tomcat  
>>>> itself, not
>>>> for webapps.  There is a special rule that makes servlet classes in
>>>> package "org.apache.catalina" available to webapps anyway, however,  
>>>> which
>>>> is why the standard WebdavServlet (as well as the other Tomcat  
>>>> features
>>>> that are available via servlets) can be loaded.
>>>>
>>>> Craig
>>>
>>> Thank you Craig.
>>>
>>> Could you please tell more about the rule or give a pointer. The
>>> class-loader-info of the Tomcat-Docu says nothing about the rule, but
>>> says, that "These classes and resources are TOTALLY invisible to web
>>> applications".
>>>
>>
>> Actually, the rule is very simple, and it is there in the docs.  Look  
>> at
>> the picture of the class loader hierarchy in the Tomcat docs:
>>
>>    
>> http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/tomcat-4.0-doc/class-loader- 
>> howto.html
>>
>> The classes that are visible to a web application are those in the  
>> class
>> loader for that webapp, and any of it's parent class loaders.  In  
>> other
>> words, an application can see the "WebappX" class loader for itself,
>> plus the "Shared", "Common", "System", and "Bootstrap" class loaders.  
>>  It
>> can*not* see the "Catalina" class loader.
>
>

thanks,
*-pike
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