>From what it sounds like, you installed Tomcat twice, once as a service, once as a user-level application, and are trying to use the user-level application shortcuts to manage the service, which won't happen.
My HOWTO describes the whole process in detail: http://www.johnturner.com/howto If you don't want to use Apache and a connector, just ignore those parts and focus on the Tomcat part. You don't need Apache and a connector unless you want them. They are optional. Basically, AFAIK there is no "self-extracting file" in the ZIP distribution. There is a .exe distribution, which runs the Tomcat installer. This is not the same thing as the ZIP distribution. Maybe you only have one installation and I am just not clear on what you mean by "self-extracting file". From what I know, the ZIP distribution for Windows is equivalent to the binary distribution of Tomcat for UNIX/Linux, which has no installer. The .EXE distribution for Windows is equivalent to the RPM distribution for Linux. If you run the .EXE file, you don't have to do anything but use the Services control applet to start and stop Tomcat....you don't even need to set CATALINA_HOME. Check my HOWTO, it might help. John -----Original Message----- From: Bruce Barkstrom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 7:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Difficulties with Windows 2000 Installation of Tomcat 4.1 Folks, I downloaded a copy of the Windows .zip file for the Tomcat 4.1 distribution over the weekend. I believe I unzipped it satisfactorily and extracted all of the files into an unoccupied directory. Then, I ran the self-extracting file to create the operational version of the Tomcat server and its documentation. I am running a Windows 2000 machine that is not connected to any outside network. The following happened during installation, as the Apache version of an install shield operated: 1. A large number of files were extracted and placed in the directory serving as the root of the subdirectories for the server: C:\Program Files\Apache Group\Tomcat 4.1\ 2. At some point near the end of the file extraction, the installation window stopped and asked for the administrator name and password. The default administrator name was "admin". I accepted the default and entered a password that I wrote down. 3. As the installation entered its terminal phases, I noticed the fatal words stream past - almost faster than I could read - "starting Tomcat server". 4. Then the installation process ended, the "install shield" disappeared, and I reentered my normal world of interacting with the computer (after a fashion). I went ahead and tried some of the obvious things I expected to do - like setting the environment variable %CATALINA_PATH%. Then I tried to follow the testing procedure where you turn on the server and turn it off. Neither seemed to have any effect on the service. I tried the administrator and the manager interfaces. No clue there as to how to turn the ("bloody") service on or off. I noticed that the task monitor had tomcat.exe running as a process. I tried stopping it with the task monitor. No luck - it just kept going. I found that when I selected Tomcat 4.1 with the Program popup menu, I had some icons that indicated I could stop or start the server by pushing them. They didn't seem to have any effect on the server operation as it appeared in the task manager. I even restarted the machine - no effect as far as the task manager is concerned. I could also check that I was able to read web pages through "localhost:8080" and that the example JSP's worked through the MS IE browser version 5.5 - and even Netscape 6.1. Now I admit to admiring programs that are robust in their operation - and this service seems to fit that description admirably. However, I will admit to a certain curiosity as to how one does actually stop this server - not to mention a desire to retain a certain amount of human control over this thing that has now taken over a modest corner of my machine. That's the first question! In the process of trying to gain some control, I tried to read some of the documentation that came with this release. Alas, it seems to apply to release 4.0 of Tomcat. This leads to the second question: is there additional documentation for 4.1 that is like the .txt kind of files that go with the 4.0 release? In addition, the documentation seems intended for people familiar with Unix or Linux. Those of us who use GUI's because we're old and are tending to become forgetful and feeble-minded because of our (admittedly perverse) addiction to Windows seem to have been left out of the directions. Ditto for the web pages that are part of the tomcat documentation. I was particularly interested in how I might turn on the cgi interface with the server. I had compiled an Ada program (I know, how unsociable of me - but there you are, some of us are still out there compiling away) that accepted input and then sent back a stream of text that looks like an HTML page. Because of the unix flavor or the HTML documentation and the 4.0 release text file, I wasn't able to be sure I'd done the following things correctly: a. Had I modified the web.xml file in the right location (the right location wasn't clear from the Unix-based documentation for names)? b. Where was the proper subdirectory to put the file with the executable - was it a subdirectory that already existed or did I need to create one? (experimenting with MSIE, it looked like I should use the examples directory - but that didn't seem to work) c. Do I just drop the file in with its existing name (Minimal.exe), or do I need to change the name or extension? d. Should the executable file be in Java for Tomcat or can I use an executable based on compiling and linking in another language? So there you are. Any answers would be appreciated. Bruce R. Barkstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] (757) 864-5676 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 1/10/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 1/10/2003 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>