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Lance: When it comes to Monty Python ...
well ... I looove it. I'm more partial to "The Argument Clinic" than the
'dead parrot sketch' (although that is excellent). It is no small booboo
for you not to see the clear geography and nomenclature that IDs Russia in
Scripture but I would be hot and bothered if I let that bother me with the
temperatures 'round here (nod's as good as a wink, eh?) Mostly you just
make me laugh. My speaking is exactly for those with a discerning eye and
ear i.e. for those who have eyes to see and ears to hear what The Ruach ha
Kadosh (The Holy Spirit) saith. As to converts ... not my thang ... I'm a
recruiter for The Kingdom of YHVH ... it's
only for a few good men (women, too!). Tally Ho and Semper
Fi!
P.S. I thought 'Life of Brian' was
GREAT! All its religious protesters missed the whole point and only
revealed themselves as exactly those that the movie was about!
----- Original Message -----
Sent: 07/20/2004 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] America in the
Bible
Chris:Any guy familiar with the 'dead parrot
sketch' is smarter than your average 'bear' (pun intended). Seriously, it does
bother me when people who influence others (read yourself) though not 'blind
to some of what is there to see' also see what isn't there. (read Russia in
the Bible) One hopes that those who attend to your speaking have as much
discernment as the one returning the parrot.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: July 20, 2004 12:33
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] America in the
Bible
\o/
!HALALU Yah!
\o/
Greetings in the Matchless Name of
YahShua
!
----- Original Message -----
Sent: 07/20/2004 10:28 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] America in the
Bible
Chris, Chris, Chris:That dog won't hunt! Russia
ain't in the Bible either. If you want to 'play' with Scripture then, enjoy
yourself.
Lance: Just one of me here ... though
id'd as Christ by the leading TT trinitarian I am still only one even as The
Almighty is only one. As to Scripture ... well ... I work hard at it
but I also LOVE my work AND have fun with it! As to your observation
of my observation ... there is none so blind as those that will not to
see.
Ahava b'
YahShua
(Love in The
SAVIOUR)
Baruch
YHVH,
----- Original Message -----
Sent: July 20, 2004 10:00
Subject: [TruthTalk] America in the
Bible
\o/ !HALALU Yah! \o/
Greetings in the Matchless Name of YahShua !
----- Original Message -----
Sent: 07/20/2004 4:50 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Gay
Marriage Roll Call Vote
There are no references to America in the
Bible.
Hmmm ...
EZEKIEL 38 speaks first of all of the Russian Bear. It also speaks
of others in alliance with the Russian Bear.
Verse 8 shows the
context of time, "After many days ... in the latter years". This speaks
of a future time from that of Ezekiel that has yet to be fulfilled. Are
these times "the latter years"? Does this speak of OUR TIME?
Verse 8 also shows the Russian Bear with its alliances coming to
a particular land. This land is "brought back from the sword". This land
is "gathered out of many people". This land is identified as "the
mountains of Israel which have been ALWAYS waste but it is brought forth
out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely all of them".
Is
this land of Israel the same as that of Palestine?
In verse 9 YahVeh speaks to/of the Russian Bear with its
alliances, "Thou shalt ASCEND and come like a storm". It does not say
DESCEND as south into Israel in Palestine. Scripture says ASCEND as in
north to ??????
Verse 9 says to/of the Russian Bear with its alliances, "... thou
shalt be like a cloud to cover the land" as in an aerial transport of an
overwhelming army, or perhaps a hail of missiles, or possibly even a
literal "mushroom cloud"!
Verse 9 says to/of the Russian Bear
with its alliances, "... thou, and all thy bands, and many people with
thee".
Is there another "Israel" than that land commonly
identified as Israel that is also a most hated and despised
nation?
Is verse 11 an even clearer continuation that Ezekiel 38 could NOT be
about Israel in the land of Palestine?
Verse 11 says to/of the
Russian Bear with its alliances, "... thou shalt say, 'I will GO UP'
..." as in north. It does not say GO DOWN to Israel as in Palestine.
Verse 11 reveals the thoughts of the Russian Bear, "... to the
land of unwalled villages ...". The land of Israel in Palestine today is
a land of VILLAGES that are WALLED.
Verse 11 reveals further the
thoughts of the Russian Bear, "... I will go to them that are at rest,
that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls ...". The land of
Israel in Palestine today is a land of VILLAGES that are on constant and
heightened alert and that do NOT "dwell safely", neither can it be said
of those that dwell in Palestine that they are "of them dwelling without
walls ..."!
Verse 12 reveals the purpose and desire of the
Russian Bear with its alliances, "To take a spoil". Once again, take
note of Israel in Palestine today, its land and the condition thereof.
What "spoil" would be taken from there?
Verse 12 reveals yet
again the identity of where the attack is to be upon, "... to turn
thine hand UPON THE DESOLATE PLACES ..." - - at the time that Ezekiel is
writing - - "... that are now inhabited ..." - - as to the future date
according to the earlier portion Ezekiel wrote in this chapter of "the
latter days".
Verse 12 further reveals the purpose and desire of the Russian Bear,
"... to have gotten CATTLE and GOODS that DWELL IN THE MIDST OF THE
LAND". Does this apply to Israel in the land of Israel in
Palestine?
Has Ezekiel 38 been generally misinterpreted? Review again this
chapter beginning with verse 9 as noted above.
In verse 9 YahVeh speaks to/of the Russian Bear with its
alliances, "Thou shalt ASCEND and come like a storm". It does not say
DESCEND as south into Israel in Palestine. Scripture says ASCEND as in
north ... over the polar ice cap with its SHORTER and more PROTECTED
from radar route to America as Israel EXTENDED!
Verse 9 says
to/of the Russian Bear with its alliances, "... thou shalt be like a
cloud to cover the land" as in an aerial transport of an overwhelming
army, or perhaps a hail of missiles ... or possibly even a literal
"mushroom cloud"!
Verse 9 says to/of the Russian Bear with its
alliances, "... thou, and all thy bands, and many people with
thee".
America as Israel EXTENDED is a most hated and despised
nation. She is taken advantage of, not truly loved, nor is she
respected. Many (?most?) will join with the Russian Bear against America
as Israel EXTENDED.
Is verse 11 an even clearer continuation
that Ezekiel 38 is about America as Israel EXTENDED?
Verse 11
says to/of the Russian Bear with its alliances, "... thou shalt say, 'I
will GO UP' ..." as in north over the polar ice cap with its SHORTER and
more PROTECTED from radar route to America as Israel EXTENDED! It does
not say GO DOWN as in south to Israel as in Palestine.
Verse 11
reveals the thoughts of the Russian Bear, "... to the land of unwalled
villages ...". Does this not more definitively speak to America as
Israel EXTENDED?!? It CANNOT refer to Israel in Palestine since VILLAGES
there are WALLED.
Verse 11 reveals further the thoughts of the
Russian Bear, "... I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell
safely, all of them dwelling without walls ...". Does this not more
definitively speak again to AMERICA as Israel EXTENDED?!? Once again, it
CANNOT refer to Israel in Palestine as VILLAGES there are on constant
and heightened alert, do NOT "dwell safely", neither can it be said of
those that dwell in Palestine that they are "of them dwelling without
walls ..."!
Verse 12 reveals the purpose and desire of the
Russian Bear with its alliances, "To take a spoil". Does this not more
definitively speak yet again to America as Israel EXTENDED! Once again,
it CANNOT refer to Israel in Palestine. There is no "spoil" to be
profited from there.
Verse 12 reveals yet once again the identity
of where the attack is to be upon, "... to turn thine hand UPON THE
DESOLATE PLACES ..." - - at the time that Ezekiel is writing - - "...
that are now inhabited ..." - - as to the future date according to the
earlier portion Ezekiel wrote in this chapter of "the latter days". Does
this not more definitively speak yet once again to America as Israel
EXTENDED mixed with "... the people that are gathered out of the nations
..."!
Verse 12 further reveals the purpose and desire of the
Russian Bear, "... to have gotten CATTLE and GOODS that DWELL IN THE
MIDST OF THE LAND". The Russian Bear covets (and has ALWAYS coveted) the
"CATTLE and GOODS that DWELL IN THE MIDST OF" **America**. Does not this
Scripture address the geographical area of the Russian Bear as the
instrument of judgment of YahVeh against the sin centers of
America as Israel EXTENDED on our COASTS - - HOLLYWOOD/LOS ANGELES,
SEATTLE, NEW YORK CITY, ATLANTA, FLORIDA. Is this not prophecy of the
Russian Bear with its alliances seeking to save, to spoil, and to
plunder the internal portion of this nation?
SELAH.
America was founded upon REVOLUTION - - "brought
back from the sword".
America is KNOWN throughout the world as a
"melting pot" - - "gathered out of many people".
America
possesses much higher points than Palestine, and is the greatest
strength for the nation-state of Israel in Palestine - - "the mountains
of Israel".
America was a wasteland at the time that Ezekiel
wrote. It was a land with a rich potential, although it was a waste due
to its lack of development to that time - - "which have been ALWAYS
waste". This CANNOT refer to the land of Palestine for it had not been
ALWAYS waste, having been previously profitable prior to captivity.
America would be brought forth from having "been ALWAYS waste"
when it would be "brought forth out of the nations" in mixture with
Israel since Israel was insistent upon mixing with the nations
throughout its history.
If you DO NOT KNOW of the history of
ISRAEL after their CAPTIVITY and DISPERSION then you will not know WHO,
WHAT, and WHERE is ISRAEL. Your readings of prophecy will subsequently
be skewed.
I think the Exegeses Bible gives the MOST ACCURATE
TRANSLATION OF VERSES 11 AND 12:
AND YOU SAY, "I ASCEND TO THE
LAND OF SUBURBS; I GO TO THEM WHO REST -- WHO SETTLE CONFIDENTLY; ALL OF
THEM SETTLING WITHOUT WALLS AND HAVING NEITHER BARS NOR DOORS; TO SPOIL
A SPOIL AND TO PLUNDER A PLUNDER" -- TO TURN YOUR HAND ON THE PARCHED
AREAS NOW INHABITED, AND ON THE PEOPLE GATHERED FROM THE GOYIM, WHO WORK
CHATTEL AND WHO CHATTEL -- WHO SETTLE ON THE SUMMIT OF THE LAND.
AMERICA as Israel EXTENDED would eventually "dwell safely" more
than 2 millennia after this prophecy was given, or as the Exegeses Bible
renders it (perhaps more accurately) "and they shall SETTLE CONFIDENTLY
all of them".
SELAH.
Ahava b' YahShua
(Love in The
SAVIOUR)
Baruch YHVH,
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