Guilt? What would give you such thoughts?
 
Titus Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled.

Notice it is persons that are defiled not their thoughts/beliefs.
It is people that are cast into HELL not their beliefs!
 
Do you feel comfortable with SPers who do such, or use other demeaning tactics such as waving underwear?
Great peace have they which love thy law: and nothing shall offend them.
 
Jesus taught that those that are offended have no root in themselves MT 13:21 and can not endure.
Are you saying Mormons are ABOVE REPROACH?
Pr 15:10 Correction is grievous unto him that forsaketh the way: and he that hateth reproof shall die.
2 Tim 4:2-4 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
1 Jn 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
Pr 27:5 Open rebuke is better than secret love.
 
We are told in the Book of Jude to contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.
Amos 3:3 Can two walk together, except they be agreed?
Lu 12:51 Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division
Pr 28:4 They that forsake the law praise the wicked: but such as keep the law contend with them
Jn 9:39 And Jesus said, For judgment I am come into this world, that they which see not might see; and that they which see might be made blind.

Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Does this come close to a NON BLATANT AD HOM in your eyes?

DAVEH:  Naw.....It's just an observation, Kevin.  Why do think it is an ad-hom?  Did you feel a twinge of guilt when reading it?  I would be very surprised if a SPers such as I imagine DavidM to be would fee guilty, as I can't imagine him using simular tactics.   But if it struck a sensitive nerve with you....well, I suppose I wouldn't be surprised.  However Kevin, I really don't know you very well.  Do you feel comfortable with SPers who do such, or use other demeaning tactics such as waving underwear?

Kevin Deegan wrote:
Sure sounded like a set up to me? You agree DaveH?

DAVEH:   Hmmmmmmm again.....Sounds like something he learned from SPers.
 
WHAT are you implying DH? Does this come close to a NON BLATANT AD HOM in your eyes?

Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
That wasn't not done out of respect.

DAVEH:   Hmmmmmm.......Do you have any respect for Mormons, Dean?

Sure sounded like a set up to me? You agree DaveH?

DAVEH:   Hmmmmmmm again.....Sounds like something he learned from SPers.

Would a Mormon High Priest do such?

DAVEH:  None that I know would do such.  Hmmmmmmm a third time......Perhaps he was a SPer claiming to be MHP.  If he was indeed a true Mormon, I believe his actions were inappropriate, and I will apologize to you in his behalf.   However, I dislike drawing conclusions without hearing the his side of the story.

Dave you need to learn to separate the Moderator "Judge More" from Dean Moore.

DAVEH:   That's a mistake I've seen other moderators use as an excuse for improper behavior.  Do you believe that separating Judge Dean from Judge More absolves you from responsible behavior?  If Judge Dean posts an ad-hom, would not be reasonable to expect Judge More admonish him?  If not, then would Judge More be practicing a double standard?

    Perhaps I do have trouble separating the Moderator "Judge More" from Dean Moore.....when I hear you say something to the effect......

Group Please keep off the Ad. Hom. grass so I can give the "Provoker" some attention

........I pretty much hear Judge More's voice, despite your claim that it is Judge Dean's lips that are moving.  I can't see which side of the mouth you are speaking from, Judge Dean.  I can only read your words and interpret them a s coming from one who intends to take no prisoners.

All I meant was that we are headed to our usual take no prisoners debate. 

DAVEH:   You are the one who called me a pagan, Judge Dean.  If you wish to refuse to apologize for making that ad-hom remark, and if Judge Moore does not call you on the carpet for posting blatant ad-homs, then would Judge Moore be justified in giving me the boot if I merely referred to Judge Dean's _______(fill in the blank) practices?   Your take no prisoners comment seems to imply TT is not big enough for both of us, Judge Dean.  Is that where you want to go with this?

gave us copies to tear up in from of the Temple-but we didn't do so.

DAVEH:   Thank you for that measure of respect, Dean.
cd: That wasn't not done out of respect. I just don't like being set up/used by Mormons.He told us that Mormons loved the present Prophet (so-called) more then they loved J. Smith-then gave us the pictures then instructed us to tear them up in front of the Temple. Sure sounded like a set up to me? You agree DaveH? Would a Mormon High Priest do such?

I guess I will Get DavH off you back

DAVEH:   ???  Does that mean you have your finger on the EXECUTE DavH button, Judge Dean?  Has Kevin been complaining about me bothering him lately?  I don't recall saying anything to him recently that would be disrespectful......But if he wants me gone, it is within your power to carry out his wishes.
cd: Dave you need to learn to separate the Moderator "Judge More" from Dean Moore. All I meant was that we are headed to our usual take no prisoners debate. 

Group Please keep off the Ad. Hom. grass so I can give the "Provoker" some attention

DAVEH:   How considerate of you, Judge Dean!   I guess I should fee privileged that you are willing to devote all your attention to me to the exclusion of other TTers.  It does seem a bit selfish though.....as you seem to want to smoke all the Ad. Hom. grass yourself!!!    Just don't inhale though, as you might choke on it......   =-O
cd: Sound like you also like a good fight-You admitted to provocking me and I am answering your caslling out and I am standing here Mormon-lets get on with it Pagan.

Dean Moore wrote:
cd: Ouch:-) Hey I have that picture in mutli's-The High Priest that Ruben hung out (what was his name?)with gave us copies to tear up in from of the Temple-but we didn't do so. Kevin I gue ss I will Get DavH off you back for a while as soon as David shows of-or better yet I might as well get stated on that:-)So I will be busy for a while-Group Please keep off the Ad. Hom. grass so I can give the "Provoker" some attention.
 
 


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